Israeli-Palestinian conflict

[War]

You remind me alot of a guy who once came to the forums known as
Lu Bu. He was an Arabs. He made the same post the other way.

Now I am, like Tele, a Christians. Now most Christians do view this fude almost meaning less. At one time Christians marched in the masses to fight and take over Israeli. It looked like it was for the holy land. If you know your history, it was all for money and land.

If something was able to make us finally stop then even Jew and Arabs can stop. What stop the us was lose of life for the most part. To much was lost in a meaningless war.

It doesn't matter who was given what when and who was there then. Its in the past. Arabs need to stop the killing and Jew need to stop there oppressing the people living there by making them move and building walls.

That is just a dream and my post will most likely not change a thing your mind

[Legend of the Past]

Oppressing. You act like we're holding them as slaves. Israeli arabs are well-respected in my book, and in the books of many of others. The Palestinians just stick around for a lost battle.

Really, WHAT do we want? We've been nearly genocided, hated everywhere. When we come to our homeland, people had to choose betweent the hurt and dying Jews to the Arabs, who have neigborhing countries filled with religious allies. You have Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Iran, THE MIDDLE EAST! The Jews want one strip of land, smaller than effing New Jersey! The UN chose to give us the land, we took it. Go live somewhere else, you lost, lose with respect.

[Inderos]

DON'T.
SAY.
HIS.
NAME.

Sorry, but for being a Jew, you don't know much about the Tetragrammaton. Tele didn't say his name aloud. It's only taboo if you say it. Not his fault if you actually speak the words you read, and said Yahweh. Seems to me that you're trying to raise conflict. Maybe you hate Americans or Arabs, but it's most likely the whole world. You're using this forum as a personal outlet for your frustration. We're not Arabs. We're not the UN. None of us are any position to do anything about it, so you can't have created the topic in hopes of swaying some of our opinons about the matter. You're not really arguing this intellectually, either, with all of your points fueled by emotion. Sure, the Jews were genocided, but they weren't the only ones in history. More than twice as many Chinese were killed in the Chinese Revolution than in the Holocaust. Stop playing the victim, please. And after that, stop using this wonderful forum as your personal support group. You're hoping one of us agrees with you and says, "YES! THE JEWISH PEOPLE DESERVE PALESTINE!" thereby reaffirming to yourself to you are right, because you could not possibly be wrong.


-Yahweh... Er, Inderos/Judah.

[Legend of the Past]

Nah, I'm not trying to raise conflict. Don't get me wrong. Like I said, I don't mind any opinions against the Jews, as long as you don't support Genocide. Seriously, we don't like it when it's written anywhere except the Bible, and that's what pissed me off. No hard feelings from my side, hopefully none from Tele, and none from you.

I just want to see what people think worldwide. If I want to trash-talk Arabs, Americans, and anyone for that matter, I can do that with my friends. God knows we do sometimes, when we're in a rotten mood. Right now, though, I just want to feel we're not hated worldwide. I want to see things have changed since 200 years ago.

And I'm not playing the victim. I just mean that for all we've been through, we could at least get a bit of land. A bit. If you disagree... That's your choice, I guess.

[Telephalsion]

Yeah, sorry if I offended you Legend. Care to enlighten me on why Jews get pissed when you say Gods name?

And if you do get pissed everytime Yahweh is said, then U2 should have been murdered a couple of times now, they have a song taht goes:

"Yahweh, Yahweh, always pain before a child is born"

Something like that.

Anyways, it's sad that the Jews have been persecuted so much. But I'm not entirely sure if they've been persecuted the msot, probably the longest though.

[Legend of the Past]

We've been persecuted whenever there was no one to persecute. Like you said, maybe not the most, but the longest.

But sure... Won't get offended, I was just pissy when I read that post. So yeah. Why? I dunno. It's sort of taboo. It's like asking why is walking around naked in the street precieved as wrong.

[Telephalsion]

I thought that that was just an ld idea, and the only place besides here taht I've heards of people getting angry at the mentioning of gods name is in "Life of Brian".

[Fitz Tayo]

It's like asking why is walking around naked in the street precieved as wrong.

HOLD IT!

What!?

[ReaperGal]

The entire situation is complete bullshit.

Okay, listen, it's their holy land too. And the way they see it, Britan (or The western world) took it away from them, and then gave it to the Jews. They don't respect Britan's word. They don't respect the UN. The western world was screwing over the middle east for years. How do you want them to react?

So stop acting like such a martyr. They have reasons that are just as valid as yours. And in my opinion, none of the reasons are valid.

There. If you're insulted, I'm not suprised. I can't state my opinion on this matter without insulting someone. In short, Britan sucks, America sucks, the Palastinians and the Isrealites suck. No side is without blame. No country is not acting like a moron in this situation.

Now, if you excuse me, I'm going to take some midol.

[Legend of the Past]

Why should I be insulted? I'm not being a matyr, we're not saints and they're big bad people, but they're definetly approaching the problem differently. If you think killing people is the solution, well, I can't say I share your view.

So Britian gave us the lands. They don't give a damn about Britan or the UN. So what your basically saying, is that it's our 'fault' someone gave us a bit of land? I might of come out as trying to make the Jews seem like matyrs, but you come out as trying to make us look like evil, land-grabbing monsters that exist only to ruin the life of the Arabs.

They have reasons as valid as mine, that much is true, but it doesn't mean innocent people who've done nothing to hurt them should die. The situation can't be fixed by living together, because, like I'm sure I already said, we'll be the minority quickly enough, and then the scales will be tipped the other way. Trying to do this will lock the Israelies and Palestinians in a never-ending loop of someone becoming the underdog, and thinking he deserves stuff more. I'm all for a Palestinian state, but I'm all against a Palestinian state in Israel. With all due respect, we've already given them land and allowed them to have their own goverment. Now that goverment is ruled by a terrorist orginazation, whose purpose is to wipe us off the map. And they're the ones that said that, not me.

You want to support Hamas, terrorism and death? Fine, I won't agree with you, but sure. I just want peace. How it comes, is a totally different matter, but I'm not moving away.

HOLD IT!

What!?

Asking why Jews don't like it when God's name is said is like asking why walking around naked in the street is wrong. It's just taboo. We respect our God enough to say that saying his name in everyday conversation is considered a sin. Doing it in Israel is precieved as taboo, and while it's not as weird as the example I gave..

[Fitz Tayo]

I was implying I don't think walking around naked is wrong. Except in winter for obvious reasons.

[Legend of the Past]

Hmm. Yeah. I'm glad I'm not where you're at, because, frankly, nudists creep me out.

[Fitz Tayo]

Tha's just 'cos they're all butt ugly. But I swear I saw a hot one once... but it was from a distance... and they might have been wearing clothes, can't be too sure with my shoddy eye-sight.

[Legend of the Past]

Well, I woulden't know. But sure, if hot naked chicks is your thing... Call me hopeless romantic, I would only make love to my one true love.

[Fitz Tayo]

But sure, if hot naked chicks is your thing...

Quote of the day for me.