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Elian Gonzales- my thoughts.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 5:08 pm
by Glenn47
So I watched this thing on TV about Elian Gonzales. You've all probably heard of him, google it if you haven't. Anyway, I was thinking about how weird the whole thing is. I have an unconventional thought about Elian, and I'm wondering if anyone else sees it. Okay, here are the facts-

Elian went on a raft with TWELVE people.
Elian is 6 years old.
Elian survived on a raft and basically floated into America.
His house in America that he was forced out of is now being held as a holy place, with a giant cross near the closet he was pulled out of by American Troops. People are comparing him to Jesus (as it said in the TV special.)
Elian's mother's name is Elizabeth. The name's origin is Hebrew, and it means "Consecrated to God." Consecrated, for you lazy people, means "dedicated to a sacred purpose; sanctified."

So okay, from what I know of christian religion, there were twelve apostles. 6 is satan's number. It has been said that the Antichrist is born on water, and that people mistakenly follow him as Jesus.
So, that's what I've noticed, and it's been on my mind for about 3-4 days now. Could Elian Gonzales be the Antichrist? Probably not. But it IS a thinker.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 5:14 pm
by AznChipmunk
Geez, he's only six. How would he be an Antichrist?

But then again, six is Satan's number.
I'll have to Google that.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:02 pm
by Koren The Wanderer
AznChipmunk wrote:Geez, he's only six. How would he be an Antichrist?


Because Glenn told us. I personally don't believe in that kinda stuff, but it's interesting to hear.

Although, I remember there was a thread here awhile ago about the Pope after he died, and someone said something about an antichrist supposedly coming with the new pope. But the pope's name was supposed to be Peter, and Peter it is not. So unless Benedict is Hebrew for Peter, that err.. prophecy is pretty much screwed.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 7:10 pm
by Greatchickenman
It's human instinct to try and find coincidences. However, it's just paranoia.
I can just as easily say that Santa Claus is the anti-christ because the birth of St. Nicholas is December 6.

Get it? 12th month. 12 apostles. 6th day. Devil's number... see how easy it is to make a comparison? People worship Santa Claus instead of Jesus on Christmas so he already has a huge public backing. Santa Claus lives on the North Pole, which is just a solid form of water.

There you go. Elian Gonzales isn't the Antichrist. Santa Claus is.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 7:33 pm
by Sage Of The Wise
Didn't that happen years ago? Why the special now?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 7:44 pm
by Glenn47
5-year anniversary actually.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:18 pm
by Forerunner
6 isn't satans number. The 'Revelations' (written by John [it's in the bible]) basically state that 666 is the devils number.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 9:02 pm
by Greatchickenman
Its something like 6 is the number of the devil, 6 is the number of the beast, and 6 is the number of the antichrist. So it's 666 meaning all three of them.


Have you even read anything on it or just decided that 666 was the number because its portrayed like that in movies and in pop culture?



Besides we all know the the anti-christ is whatever is birthed from Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 9:44 pm
by Glenn47
The only part of the Bible I've even read is Revelations! (and like, 4 pages of Matthew I think. Matthew or Luke.)
Yeah, weird somewhat-related sidenote, my half-brother's mom (so not my mom) who shot herself in the head during a drunken stupor lived in a house with 666 as the address.

oooOOOOOoooOOOOOOOOoooooooooohhhh, spooky!!!

satan eats cheese whiz!!

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:19 pm
by Strayed Wanderer
You people have actually read parts of the bible? Wow... you're so going to hell.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:06 pm
by Exiled
666 is the mark of the beast, a symbol if you will of satan, a mark of man's sin. I haven't heard of this individual 6 hu-ha, but I do know that in the new testiment (Rev. 14:9-12) people who choose the path of satan will be marked with that number on his or her forehead or arm. Also apparently there will be another crusade of some sort. And the people who become martyers will be the first into heaven. And, well all this crap is theology for you. What can you do? Nothing. So why bother?

Oh and Glenn, he's just a Kid. Chill.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:38 am
by Wellsy
All this talk about 6 and the devil's number really shouldn't apply to Elian, who has also been referred to as "the little brown one." In a year he will be 7 - does that mean he'll stop being the Antichrist at that point? If so, he'd better get his shit together STAT! Besides, if any kid was going to be the Antichrist, it would be Dakota Fanning, or maybe that Culkin kid. Or Jake Lloyd. Actually, yes, Jake Lloyd is the Antichrist . . . :evil:

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:00 am
by Koren The Wanderer
Wellsy630 wrote:Besides, if any kid was going to be the Antichrist, it would be Dakota Fanning, or maybe that Culkin kid. Or Jake Lloyd. Actually, yes, Jake Lloyd is the Antichrist . . . :evil:


The one thing I hate about you Americans. I don't know who the hell half the people you talk about are.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:05 am
by Wellsy
Koren The Wanderer wrote:
Wellsy630 wrote:Besides, if any kid was going to be the Antichrist, it would be Dakota Fanning, or maybe that Culkin kid. Or Jake Lloyd. Actually, yes, Jake Lloyd is the Antichrist . . . :evil:


The one thing I hate about you Americans. I don't know who the hell half the people you talk about are.

Forgive me. Let me explain it to you, then.

Dakota Fanning = annoying child actor in War of the Worlds, etc.
Culkin kid = annoying child actor in The Ring 2, etc.
Jake Lloyd = annoying child actor in Episode 1: Attack of the Clones, etc.

Perhaps you see a recurring theme . . .

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:43 am
by TeppicTheBloodLyn
Haven't ANY of you guy read "Good Omens" by Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman? The antichrist is an 8 year old kid in england named Adam Young. The only reason the supposed antichrist is in the US is a mix uup in the birthsentre at an hospital run by nuns. Who are all devout satanists. This will keep the angles and demons confused for a while. Of, and the earth will end in three years, on this day, around teatime.