Logic of the Plunge?

[Ghoti]

Okay, I was on episode 5 and I was stuck at the Plunge with Kygar.(I had pretty poor stats, BTW) I just coudn't seem to beat him. He always used the skill(you know, Cross Sweep, Drop Slash) that would beat me, so I tried beating him without using any risk attacks. It didn't work.

I thought about it for a while, and decided that it probably uses some kind of logic. The skill the enemy chooses depends on what both you and the enemy chose last pass.

I can't remember the logic I used, unfortunately. But it helped me to beat Kygar using a Risk Attack every turn. I won with a Weak Victory(I had very poor stats).

I'm not sure if this is true or just a coincidence, but it's strange how I was only able to do equal amount of damage to him as he did to me using this logic.

Maybe those of you who know how RM2K works can figure out if this is right or not.

[Porter]

Risk attacks always lead me to loss somehow.

i never use them, i'd prefer to link

[Telephalsion]

it's very random, in some battles risk attacks are better, but in some i've gotten smashed by using risk, I can't really explain it... just random

[ancsur2002]

I have tried to record what I did and what my opponent, but it was always different... I think it's totally random. Or... at least I couldn't find anything that would help.

[Ghoti]

I just thought it was weird the way it happened. Maybe I'll record what happens next time I play through.

My strategy only worked most of the time, so it might have been a coincidence.

[DSOK]

I found a statistically significant tendancy for plunge opponents to use the attack immediately following the one they just used. That helped me figure out my risk attacks. (It is still possible, although unlikely, that the effect I saw was merely a product of change, however.)

However, the data for this was all collected during epsiodes 2 and 3, and my inclination, based on observation of the lyns in later episodes, is to think that this pattern no longer holds.

[Flibbo]

i usually select whatever attack is weak against the one he/she just did against me, using a risk attack if i feel like it and linking them depending on the situation (i.e. him beating me = something like cool wind to help us draw even me beating him = something like jagged edge to get some damage while i can or drawing = something like dust spay to tip the balance)

[Lucre Mammon]

I almost always use lunge attacks. If the opponent uses a drop slash with a risk, I get a huge benefit. If the opponent uses a cross sweep with a risk, I get a much smaller penalty. If the opponent's choice of attack is random, I think that's the optimal strategy unless I'm missing something. I haven't looked very closely at the algorithm so I could be wrong.

[Amgard]

Lunge is mathmatically the superior skill.

Althorugh Cross Sweep has more Link+ stones.

Drop has a big bonus in itself if you risk.

[Sage Of The Wise]

For the most part it seems to be random but I found three things of interest:

Found in Coding For Slade Plunge: Slades strategy is to use Strong Link
Blade Art and thus build up his Link

The name Lun uses for the battle with the shadow figure in Ep. 5, after Slade Plunge, is Shadow in Mind. This could prove that the place Rhue went really was Slades mind.

Lun also left a massages in the enemies AI staying:This function contains algorithms that give the enemy AI during the plunge. Most of it is just random crap, but in the future more detailed algorithms will be developed.

This could mean Enemies with actual strategies that require you to find them out and counter them, this could be fun!

EDIT: Found another interesting thing found in the plunge animation event:INSERT WAR CRYS and taunts here later? Or maybe sooner. Lun.

Is this just talking about diologue during battle, or could it be meaning actual voices? (Like in Jay's Journey, if anyones played that)

[DSOK]

I almost always use lunge attacks. If the opponent uses a drop slash with a risk, I get a huge benefit. If the opponent uses a cross sweep with a risk, I get a much smaller penalty. If the opponent's choice of attack is random, I think that's the optimal strategy unless I'm missing something. I haven't looked very closely at the algorithm so I could be wrong.

Reading the Wanderers' Guidebook, I was surprised to learn that all the risk attacks are actually equivalent after the first episode. (This is something that is never mentioned in the game, and honestly, I don't see why Lun should have changed this bit of the mechanics.) Whatever the risk attack is, the winner gets a 35% damage bonus.

[Snowy]

Well, in the last battle in episode 5 against Strata, he beated me up badly all the time the second time I got there [I finished with the old version and then the newer one, although not newest] and I was pissed that I couldn't even defeat him without a bonus.
After about 10 tries or something like that, I did a Lunge with risk I think... he took risk too and was the lower cube, the blue one, and I thought 'nah he'll probably not get much damage' and I had Jagged Edge on the hit too. *CLASH*... both drop... I see me getting like 24 damage, and him about 64! 4th step injury...

This really proves it is all about randomicy and LUCK. No very certain formule to win, just... luck and stats.

[Berserker]

It's very random, but with link attacks you can use some strategy (which itself will require luck to succeed)