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Postby Flibbo » Mon Aug 29, 2005 2:09 pm

Telephalsion wrote:
Flibbo wrote:nova stones are like sex.



If you're lucky you'll find it four times?


I suppose when taken in that context its like sex for Inderos
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Postby Cerem » Mon Aug 29, 2005 3:44 pm

Jabbo wrote:Well, it's not like Rhue's ever had sex, so any number is an improvement.

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Postby Belthazar » Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:39 pm

The Way Episode 2

-Rhue sees the phantom Slasher (so how can he be the phantom slasher and see himself?)
-Rolling mists are at the beginning and end of the way and are constantly moving.
-Gaius knows Rhue and says that they killed someone together and both his name and aura are different. Believes Rhue has forgotten.
-One of the bandits Rhue kills with the Guided says his friends were killed by the Phantom Slasher and says there might be a relationship. Said his friends were "good people" (but come on he is a bandit so maybe the phantom slasher only kills good people?)
-An event similar to the Phantom Slasher happened a long time ago (maybe right before rhue got the sword and thats why those two people gave Rhue the sword so they could stop killing people.)
-Rhue attacks the shadow sword in Lide and believes he was possessed during the attack. (if Rhue has a Shadow sword then why would the sword want to attack another shadow sword?)
-Delhara- a boy named Alagard broke his blood oath and only him and one other did this and lived.
-A Headhunter says he spoke to Rhue a few weeks before but Rhue doesnt remember. The Headhunter says Rhue has gotten more "hostile" and if he has found Jeruh yet. The Headhunter says he has a very good memory and call Rhue another name "Midian" (could Midian from episode 5 be someone that is related to Rhue and is that why they look alike?)


The Way Episode 3
-Rhue's sword is found through a soldier's helmet.
-Slade is a member of the the Vigilance Council and hates lazy and perverted men.
- Rhue ends Jed's suffering by cutting his head off.
-Lyrra is rescues by Strata
-When Rhue falls into the Pits he dreams the landorin massacre through the eyes of Jed (Lyrra called rhue daddy thats how i know) and Lyrra says the kids are hurt but she didnt see Jeruh. (so jeruh might still be alive)
-Rhue calls Scatha's hair pretty and she is speechless.
-A struggle occurs between Scatha and another possibly over the sword that fell from Lide. (but i'm starting to think lun did this specifically to trick us and that it was another shadow sword and it wasn't traziun that we fought but midian which explains why the shadow looks like him and i know i'm getting ahead of myself but it also explains how both jed and midian are in dream estrana in episode 5.)
-Scatha knows Rhue but says his name is different.

ok well i have been thinking about it and what if jeruh is rhue? It would fit the story plus him and lyrra both wear the same colored clothes. Plus if you take out the J from Jeruh and you unscramble it you get Rhue. But again its all just a theory. I'll try to finish the last two episodes soon and i hope you guys can keep adding stuff that i missed.
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Postby Non-Sequitur » Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:00 pm

Belthazar wrote:(could Midian from episode 5 be someone that is related to Rhue and is that why they look alike?)

I'm not saying that it isn't a possibility, but there is a problem I see with it. If Midian looks enough like Rhue for him to be mistaken for Rhue, I think Rhue would have said something (in his thoughts) about it. Lun also told me that he wanted a face set for Midian so I don't think Midian's appearance is something that Lun doesn't want us to know about right now.
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Postby fwacho » Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:16 pm

Belthazar wrote:The Way Episode 2
-Rhue attacks the shadow sword in Lide and believes he was possessed during the attack. (if Rhue has a Shadow sword then why would the sword want to attack another shadow sword?


good question. think about it and remeber every action movie you've ever seen with a good plot. (there arn't that many so it shouldn't be too hard)
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Postby Belthazar » Wed Aug 31, 2005 2:29 pm

The Way Episode 4

-We learn Slade's obssession is justice. However to achieve a high position he turns down Patura who wanted to have sex with him.
-The hooded figure in the outer city says the Illuminati were created to harm only those whom the purpose wished to harm and innocent can't get hurt by them. He also says shadow swords are the opposite in every way of the illuminati. (so wait if u have a shadow sword u cant kill an evil person and if u have an illuminati u can't kill an innocent?)
- In the room to get the key to the lever to enter Jopaga's core facility, two people are talking:
Voice 1 "You seem unsure why is that?"
Voice 2 "I...I..."
Voice 1 "You're afraid of me this is understandable. But please tell me the truth."
Voice 2 "We wanted to get the formula done but Jopaga has gone mad."
Voice 1 "You are aware then that the formula was scheduled to be done by today."
Voice 2 "He took control over all the projects there was nothing i could do!"
Voice 1 "That's the reason for the delay?"
Voice 2 "Yes"
Voice 1 " Could you do it without him?"
Voice 2 "It will be more difficult but i think i'll be able to produce something of the same effect of what we originally agreed to."
Voice 1 "Good. You will be spared the fate of your comrades follow me."
(This room btw has guided shields on the wall...hmmm...)


-When Cade loses his aura Rhue is somehow able to absorb it and it take 3 injections of formula 43 before the process starts to occur.
-In jopaga's facility Rhue goes crazy and kills the shadow lords and jopaga but he doesnt remember.
-Rhue feels odd when looking at his reflection (why?)
-Gaius and Velicia go to Jopaga's facility and Gaius says a guided member was working with Jopaga, possibly sacrifa, apparently they wanted some kind of a formula from Jopaga (maybe sacrifa had the mines dug so scatha could deliver the goods to jopaga and jopaga would create an antidote for his wife.)
-The phantom slasher saves cherla, a.k.a. the girl who asked Rhue for a date while lexus was around, from 2 shadow lords then kills her.
-Traziun saved kloe by pulling her out of a river and taking her back to Delhara (a river...that sounds a bit too coincidental but if kloe really was serena I think traziun would have found out and told rhue)
-Rhue becomes very upset over killing lexus (if he was really a bad guy he wouldn't regret killing someone)
-The Phantom Slasher kills Stokyo and the other arastozi when they planned on killing rhue.

I remember seeing the translation of the codes from jopaga's facility somewhere off the forums can someone please transfer it over here
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Postby Non-Sequitur » Wed Aug 31, 2005 4:07 pm

Belthazar wrote:I remember seeing the translation of the codes from jopaga's facility somewhere off the forums can someone please transfer it over here


http://www.crestfallen.us/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=105&start=0
http://www.crestfallen.us/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1796&start=0
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Postby Lancifer » Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:08 pm

The Jeruh is Rhue theory is generally accepted for me. You can base so many other things off of it, and it just seems to make things fit together well. Although it has been mentioned many times before (including by me, because I'm lazy and I like to write more than read) I don't think ANYONE has mentioned the Juruh take away the 'J' and unscramble thing. Although some people might think... "Thats useless, you can't base anything off of that." I dissagree. Do you know why? Scatha's old name was "Chasta" those unscramble to eachother too. I think you're really on to somethin' there, bud.
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Postby Lancifer » Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:14 pm

Oh wait... but then there is an exception. Traziun's old name was Alagard. But then again, he was runnin' from the POLICE, maybe he wanted to change it more than scrambling the letters.
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Postby Belthazar » Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:10 am

Lancifer said:

Do you know why? Scatha's old name was "Chasta" those unscramble to eachother too. I think you're really on to somethin' there, bud.



Oh wait... but then there is an exception. Traziun's old name was Alagard.


haha seriously when i thought about the unscrambling of jeruh, and losing the j to get rhue i remembered what you said about chasta and scatha and then i also remembered the case with traziun. but hey i mean its all just theories i bet lun has fun reading all of them.
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Postby Belthazar » Fri Sep 02, 2005 3:56 pm

Here you guys go this is the last of it:



The Way Episode 5

-Rhue is unable to attack the Harbringer brought by the guided. (possibly Gaius?)
-The Harbringer knows Medmur is entrego.
-We see a movie of what may be Kloe and Cetsa fighting over something (Serena's pendant?) then an awkward silence as both Kloe and Cetsa stare at one another.
-even if you win the plunge against Slade Rhue's life becomes endangered and as a result Rhue's sword starts pumping and a massive attack is used against slade. (so the sword protects Rhue is my belief)
-Rhue arrives in a strange place and fights a shadow being (looks different from the shadow we fought in the pits and different from the phantom slasher)
-After the plunge we see a cutscene with a mother and 3 kids: 2 girls and one boy. One girl is named Chasta (a.k.a. scatha) and the boy's name is Slade. We don't know the name of the little girl (but i believe its Serena).
- Next scene We discover the little girl died and the mother said this wouldn't have happened if she was obedient.
-The final scene we find Chasta is gone and the mother tells slade not to be sad about her. Later we learn she had "improper relations" with a boy (*cough* sex) and slade caught them. Then the mom burned her face and had Slade throw her into the pits.
-At a Blood Lyn settlement we see a mender and an assistant talking about an injured Slade who has apparently had a sworn "grown" in him. If removed Slade is sure to die according to the mender. But the phantom slasher comes to take the sword and Slade somehow survives.
-Rhue "awakes" to estrana and meets a midian who says "you're not the guy...". In this estrana everyone seems somehow strangely happy. No one recognizes Rhue or talks about how estrana was destroyed. (I think this place is "heaven" the people you speak to aren't mad, upset, or anything of that sort plus it does explain why Jed is there. I also think that people forget how they were killed again explaining how Jed doesn't remember Rhue ending him and that the Purpose is trying to tell him something. Last part i just pulled it out of nowhere.)
-The phantom slasher gives a sleeping Rhue a bunch of sword auras (one of which is Illuminati so again how could Rhue have a shadow sword? Also how would the phantom slasher who kills people able to have possession of the sword aura Illuminati?) and busts him out of the Blood Lyn Dungeon.
-Dirk recognizes Scatha's voice and thinks they have met before. (I think he might of been the one to help save Scatha out of the reaches or pits or whatever but then again they coulda met anywhere.)
-Kalmar tells the group that the Blana Sera will let one walk away unharmed if they battle the others and survive. (so who or what are the Blana Sera?)
-Rhue arrives in estrana again and sees a girl who is waiting for someone but thinks they won't show up. When Rhue goes to see Jed he realized Jed doesnt even know how he got to estrana. Lyrra said Beasts attacked the kids at the Landorin Massacre but no tracks were ever found. Midian is curious about Jed's son Jeruh.
-When Kalmar attempts to kill Cetsa, Rhue gets in the way and he flashes purple and electricity hits Kalmar sending him flying backwards. Kalmar's response is "Aubuta..."
-Traziun chases Kalmar (Traziun's father) and somehow teleports to a new place known as the Inner Sanctum.
-Kalmar is also the Black Lyn from Episode 3-4 who was about to execute Kloe. Traziun says to Kalmar "You are looking as youthful as ever father." (what the hell is that supposed to mean?)
-Kalmar wanted to make Traziun or Alagard the perfect blade of Justice. Blood Lyn were never sent to kill Gaius and Traziun thinks he is Kalmar's new blade of Justice.
-When Cetsa found Serena's pendant it was stained with blood.
-A man named Eyashu was killed by Pontifex Tetzel (the head of the guided) because he learned the truth about the end of the way.
-Traziun's sword is called Night Reaper and Kalmar says he sensed its evil.(so that makes it a shadow sword.)
-Gaius is found in the Pontifex's lair or whatever.
-Kalmar shows Traziun who really killed his mother but Traziun finds it difficult to believe. (I'd say Rhue or Gaius, but more likely Gaius because when Kalmar first saw Rhue he wasn't like shocked or anything).
-Gaius has an attack called inner darkness (wasn't sure if that is important or not)
-Sacrifa,left rebel, and right rebel are all headed to the end of the way as rebels and will meet with the army soon. Apparently the man from Xor will lead them (Gaius?). Tetzel has been ordering stories of the phantom slasher be spread. The phantom slasher kills Sacrifa and the other two rebels.
-Rhue awakens and everyone is gone.
-Traziun stands from a cliff and says he will kill the man to avenge his mother's death.
-Rhue kills Lyrra when she learns that he was the one who killed her father and charges at Rhue. Rhue hits Lyrra's sword away.
-Gaius and Rhue run to the area where Rhue lost Serena and says he sensed what Rhue did to Lyrra. Gaius tells Rhue he has a shadow sword and wants to help him so Gaius tells Rhue to drop his sword and back off. According to Gaius Rhue is the Phantom Slasher.
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Postby Non-Sequitur » Fri Sep 02, 2005 4:50 pm

Belthazar wrote:The phantom slasher kills Sacrifa and the other two rebels.

Since you just played through this you would probably remember better than me, but I am pretty sure we don't actually see Sacrifa die in that scene. I realize the same thing could be said for some of the other characters in scenes where the Phantom Slasher attacks, but none of these characters have had as much plot significance as Sacrifa.
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Postby Aegis » Fri Sep 02, 2005 6:02 pm

About Aubuta: I don't think it's Rhue's sword. Maybe whomever's body Rhue is in, or who Rhue used to be. Kinda like "the chosen one" or something. Also, it might be some sort of blood lyn tradition, like "good battle" or "battle over", kinda like bowing after a fight. I do NOT subcribe to the theory that Aubuta was Rhue's blade. We already know all of the names of the Illumanti and the Shadow Swords. Neither do I think that Rhue is in Midian's body. I'm pretty sure he did take over someone's body, but why the heck would it be midian?

One idea I pulled completely out of my butt once was that Rhue is Eyashu. Don't know where I got that, but meh.


Edit: Also, I really think that Serena = Scatha and Slade's little sister. "It wouldn't have happened if she was obedient." Doesn't mean that she killed her. In fact, it implies that she didn't kill her. Also, didn't it say in the EP2 flashback that they weren't supposed to play in the secret place? No, Serena said that: "SERENA: We're all sneaking out tonight to go play at the secret spot!" Sneaking out implies they're not supposed to go there. So yeah, I'm pretty much convinced that Serena is Scatha's sister. I used to think it was Kloe.
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Postby Sage Of The Wise » Fri Sep 02, 2005 6:03 pm

No, you technically dont see them die, but its the PS, when has he ever missed his target?

And you forgot the part were you see Alan (or atleast his legs, I hope the rest of him is there) sticking out of a bush next to the Guided campfire.
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Postby Burning_Flame » Fri Sep 02, 2005 8:18 pm

For the Alan thing i think they got pissed off about all his rymes and annoying talking so they gaged him and tossed him in a bush
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