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Hm... [more theories of mine]

PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 2:27 pm
by Ohtaryon
I'm going through the game again just to refresh my memory, and here is what I've come up with... And, also note in Episode 4, during the Shadow Lord Mission, when they supposedly go in to destory some "lace", but actually to steal the chemical enhancements? In the room where Rhue and Stoyko are getting the bridge's switch key, there are many sheets of paper on the tables, and most of them are filled with a jumble of numbers. I spent the last half hour breaking the code, and figured out the numbers are placed according the numbers/letters on a telephone. I've made another thread on this, so go there when I say stuff like "Code 1" or "Code 2".

Serena is Scatha... someone said this before, but it makes sense to me. She gets knocked into a river, which winds up going underground, and she wanders in and out of the undergrounds. This is just a guess, but it works for me for now.

Gaius was Kloe's boyfriend/roomie/whatever when Kloe was in Blood Lyn training. Gaius ran away from the Blood Lyn, which is the one Kloe references in her flashback just before her execution. Kloe was auctioned off. Eventually, Traziun also joined the Blood Lyn. He said he wasn't there for the second Blood Lyn's runaway, which is why he knows of Gaius when they first met in the caves. I don't know why Gaius ran off, but part of it may have been to get away from Kloe, as whenever he sees her he runs away [in Estrana]. This is simple deduction... I've placed together many different pieces, and they seem to form a complete puzzle.

I also assume the Black Lyn [the one who appeared to execute Kloe] is related in some way to Traziun's father, and may actually be him. Just a guess, based upon how obsessed Traziun is with killing his dad, and how the Black Lyn scared him off.

Rhue is Lyrra's supposedly dead brother. He's supposed to be dead, as Lyrra is supposed to be the sole survivor of the Landorin Massacre. Guess made as according to what Lyrra's father said, and what happens in the dream where Rhue is shouting for Lyrra and Jeruh, and other bits people have said. Jeruh may be Rhue's real name, but that is something I haven't quite figured out. See Code 3.

Rhue is the Phantom Slasher. See Code 2.

Re: Hm... [more theories of mine]

PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 4:38 pm
by Shindy
Ohtaryon wrote:I also assume the Black Lyn [the one who appeared to execute Kloe] is related in some way to Traziun's father, and may actually be him. Just a guess, based upon how obsessed Traziun is with killing his dad, and how the Black Lyn scared him off.


interesting observation. have you played EP5 yet?

Ohtaryon wrote:Rhue is Lyrra's supposedly dead brother. He's supposed to be dead, as Lyrra is supposed to be the sole survivor of the Landorin Massacre. Guess made as according to what Lyrra's father said, and what happens in the dream where Rhue is shouting for Lyrra and Jeruh, and other bits people have said. Jeruh may be Rhue's real name, but that is something I haven't quite figured out. See Code 3.


hmm that makes sense... since some say Rhue absorbed Jeruh's aura (others say its the sword)[/quote]

[Quote=Ohtaryon"]Rhue is the Phantom Slasher. See Code 2.[/quote]

what does the Code 2 say?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 4:45 pm
by Non-Sequitur
what does the Code 2 say?

Rhue, it's been you all along. It's you.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:31 pm
by Burning_Flame
well that could be one of those thing that are there to put us on the wrong track, it would be used in some totally diferent way, like Rhues been serena the entire time

PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 7:27 pm
by Shindy
Rhue = serena?!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

and i was thinking the same thing bout off track stuff. doesnt Lun tend 2 d0 th4t?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 11:34 pm
by RentACop
Eventually, Traziun also joined the Blood Lyn. He said he wasn't there for the second Blood Lyn's runaway, which is why he knows of Gaius when they first met in the caves.

Traziun was the first runaway. Gaius was the second one that the Blood Lyn don't talk about a lot, and that they haven't been ordered to hunt down.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:46 am
by Serav
Seems probable captain.


whahahahahahahahahahahahaha :lol:

PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 2:37 am
by voodooKobra
Theory:
when Cetsa found Serena's pendant, she and Kloe were fighting over it. Kloe was knocked into the river, and Cetsa started to panic, thinking she had just killed someone. That lead to her becoming a bandit. But, Kloe didn't drown because Traziun saved her. Notice the distance between the Blood Lyn battlegrounds (the one in Ep. 5) and the "End of the Way" (Landorin Stretch).

This theory doesn't really say anything, it's just I think that happened.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 6:25 am
by Sage Of The Wise
Serena is Scatha... someone said this before, but it makes sense to me. She gets knocked into a river, which winds up going underground, and she wanders in and out of the undergrounds. This is just a guess, but it works for me for now.


But Scatha was thrown into the pits by Slade, she didn't get knocked into the river.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 8:24 am
by Burning_Flame
Ok i'm really too lazy to make a new topic for this so, The wanderers guide book say that there were 2 horrififc events that happend at the landorin stretch, the first one was Rhues, there was a massacer by wolves, ther second one was Lyrra's they one where somebody, Rhue maybe, went crazy and killed everybody. But the first event there couldnt have been caused by rhue, why, becasue he didnt jhave his sword, so if the theory with Midian is true, he wouldnt have had his sword to absorb the aura. If this has been previously formulated than forgive me.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:26 am
by Telephalsion
One is obviously the landorin massacre, which from rhue's story, he experienced and survived. And Guessing, I'd say lyrra was the second survivor. And everyone facing a trauma like a massacre will find a way to deal with it. Rhue "obviously" went schizo and developed his PS persona.
Lyrra started living in her own fantasy happy land.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 2:00 pm
by Shindy
Sage Of The Wise wrote:
Serena is Scatha... someone said this before, but it makes sense to me. She gets knocked into a river, which winds up going underground, and she wanders in and out of the undergrounds. This is just a guess, but it works for me for now.


But Scatha was thrown into the pits by Slade, she didn't get knocked into the river.


n0000 man, she got thrown in the the river before she got thrown (again) into the pits.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 3:42 pm
by Ohtaryon
Sage Of The Wise wrote:
Serena is Scatha... someone said this before, but it makes sense to me. She gets knocked into a river, which winds up going underground, and she wanders in and out of the undergrounds. This is just a guess, but it works for me for now.


But Scatha was thrown into the pits by Slade, she didn't get knocked into the river.
Hmm... is that in the game? If it is... scratch that theory of mine.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 4:54 pm
by Burning_Flame
But what if Rhue was confused, and thought his desaster WAS the landorin massacer, when it really was some total difrent incident? Like the fact that he had no clue about the upper and lower way, what if he had no idea that the landorin massacer happend. His "massacer" was done by wolves, according to his memory, but according to several theorys it was done by people

PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 5:12 pm
by Ohtaryon
Burning_Flame wrote:But what if Rhue was confused, and thought his desaster WAS the landorin massacer, when it really was some total difrent incident? Like the fact that he had no clue about the upper and lower way, what if he had no idea that the landorin massacer happend. His "massacer" was done by wolves, according to his memory, but according to several theorys it was done by people
But remember way back at the start of the series, his dream was of wolves attacking, and that was before he had heard of the Landorin Massacre or of the rumors surrounding what happened? He only found out long after that Lyrra or the other people thought it was wolves.