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Cesta; Dead or Dying.....Kloe too

Posted:
Sat Aug 13, 2005 3:22 pm
by Forerunner
I was just wondering some other opinions of whether Cesta, after being stabbed by Slade, is dead or dying? Slade is a pro so he knows what he is doing, if he wanted to kill her then you can be sure that he aaimed well. On the other hand, he was seconds from death himself. Also there was the little scene between Cesta and Kloe when they were competeing for Rhue attention (OMG that was the funniest part of ep5. and neither of them even love him) and Cesta pushed Kloe into the pool/river/whatever and they both remembered something. I don't doubt that they where the 2 girls in the memory but to what end did Lun put it in there? If anything this gives evidence that at least Kloe and Cesta will be alive at the start of the next episode to explain a bit about that little scene.

Posted:
Sat Aug 13, 2005 3:26 pm
by Burning_Flame
Um...that little scene was a memory.... and yes it was them in it.
As for Cetsa, I think shes dead, if she wasnt almost dead when Rhue went by I think he would of...helped the process along

Posted:
Sat Aug 13, 2005 3:33 pm
by Forerunner
I was 95% sure it was a memory... either that or some strange pure-water induced hallucination...

Posted:
Sat Aug 13, 2005 5:48 pm
by Impossible
Actually, a theory a while ago explained that it might not be a memory, and I actually really liked it, although I can't remember who came up with it.
It made sense, though. Dirk said that the water would make them see the truth, or what was really there, or something. So what they saw was metaphorical; them fighting over whatever that thing was represented the same way they were fighting over Rhue: "It's mine!" "No, it's mine!" And I suppose the "it" is relevant, too, because they weren't fighting for Rhue, they were fighting against each other.
The map was called Flashback, though, and it DOES seem that way. >_<

Posted:
Sat Aug 13, 2005 5:53 pm
by Burning_Flame
Well by their reaction after the memory, "Is it her" or whatever it was, it really seems like a memory

Posted:
Sat Aug 13, 2005 6:02 pm
by Impossible
It IS a cool way of looking at it, though. >_>

Posted:
Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:54 am
by Forerunner
Yeah... it will be interesting to see the explanation... more interesting if it doesn't turn out to be a memory.
That whole scene was funny, neither of them really likes (as in love) Rhue so I think they where only fighting for the sake of proving their territory etc... like a pair of cats... or sisters...

Posted:
Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:00 am
by Wellsy
Impossible wrote:Actually, a theory a while ago explained that it might not be a memory, and I actually really liked it, although I can't remember who came up with it.
It made sense, though. Dirk said that the water would make them see the truth, or what was really there, or something. So what they saw was metaphorical; them fighting over whatever that thing was represented the same way they were fighting over Rhue: "It's mine!" "No, it's mine!" And I suppose the "it" is relevant, too, because they weren't fighting for Rhue, they were fighting against each other.
The map was called Flashback, though, and it DOES seem that way. >_<
This is actually how I saw the scene, as more metaphor than flashback. (I posted that before, but I doubt that it was me you read.) I like that angle a lot better than a simple flashback - it seems more illuminating.
But then there's that pesky map title . . . which might mean nothing.


Posted:
Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:02 am
by Winnipeg
Maybe it's alligorical. Why can't it be both?

Posted:
Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:55 pm
by Lancifer
I find that it's really strange. Kloe DOES like Rhue. Alot. Pay attention! But, she doesn't realize it, because her mind is so set on Gaius. I'm willing to bet that Kloe, on her way back to wherever she's going, will give alot of thought to Gauis, and realize that she likes Rhue.
Which of course will be a major complication, becasue Rhue only likes Serena. But, then again, at this point, ANYONE could be Serena, not excluding Kloe. The only thing we really know about Serena is that she is alive. (If she wasn't it would rend the stupid plot useless.)
But yeah, Kloe wanted Rhue to know where she was staying, she wanted to sleep with him because she was "scared" Thats a dead giveaway right there.
And yes, I do beleive they both want Rhue. THE ONLY SOLID TRUTH WE CAN GET is when someone is talking to themselves. Why? People lie in this game all the time. We can't base theories on what they say to eachother. BUT we can base theories on how they react to eachother, and what they say to themselves. Counfused?
NOONE lies to themself.
EVER

Posted:
Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:03 pm
by Lancifer
now that I think about it, Serena could be dead, in that book, but Rhue gets another clue. OR She could be alive in the book, but dead in the real world. Polotics are messed up, there's rebellion. Who's got time to maintain that book, right?
Okay, suppose she is dead... Either the game stops being fun, because you don't have a cause anymore, or...your cause switches to revenge...
Hmmm....
I just hope we get a sex scene. COME ON! Strata told Kloe he is in his twenties! Lands... noone's a virgin in their twenties...
Kloe did Ballard...
Cetsa probably did Kygar...
Traziun is badass enough to get anyone he wants...
Gaius could get at least one person I know of...
Stratta did Lyra...
Slade coulda did that one chick...
Actually, disregard all that... it was stupid.

Posted:
Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:18 pm
by Burning_Flame
With the slade thing are you talking about that counsil girl, because he rejected her and ya... you know the rest

Posted:
Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:07 pm
by Impossible
Who's got time to maintain that book, right?
he has teh quill u n00b

Posted:
Mon Aug 29, 2005 9:08 pm
by Lancifer
Sorry to be so ignorant, but ummm...
He has a quill.
What does this mean? Is the Quill a magic item that witnesses every birth and death and in all it's power and wisdom writes it's observations down in those books?
Sorry, How silly of me... I must have assumed that when Dirk said "He has a quill... blah, blah, blah, Eve, blah, blah, Sermeot." the "Quill" in question was a hired secretary of some kind, who would have a comittee of underlings... you know, like some kind of government.
Like I said. With a civil war going on, maybe this "Quill" and her staff (I say 'her' because the duties are those of a secretary, and stereotypically a woman's job) would be a little intimidated to complete their duties on a day to day basis. Oh, and of course there's the phantom slasher to worry about.
But of course, since I'm a primitave 'n00b' who lives in the real world, I must have not considered that this Quill was a magical item, because you could pay any person to do the same job, for a little money. Call me crazy, call me a n00b, it just seems like a lame enchantment to put on an item. Oh, and I say 'item' because the 'quill' is a noun. Tetzel has a quill. We've established it's not a person, it can't be a place, so, yes... must be a thing.
I dunno, maybe us n00bs should realize that a forum designed for discussing theories for a game is no place to discuss your theories for a game. Like I said, I dunno, maybe people that see their ideas clash with someone elses, and someone is obviously wrong, sometimes its you.
But it all boils down to this...
It's an insignificant point, and deffinitely not worth namecalling over. Impossible, you're on top of every post like shit on velcro, you know as well as anyone I have some good ideas, and some bad ones, but I am most certainly not a n00b.
Thank you.

Posted:
Mon Aug 29, 2005 9:21 pm
by Burning_Flame
I think the Quill is just a feather dipped in ink....you use it to write