more rambling: Ep 2.why cetsa hates scatha

[Alundra]

Translating is hard work, but i managed to get near the end of the second episode (after finishing the first today too) with even spare time to get a personal life ^_^!!
Anyhow i'm here with more news of stuff i've dug up and wonder about...

Cetsa:Have you heard the rumors?
Kygar:About that shadow?
Cetsa:Yes...\| I think it's.\..\..\. "her".
Kygar:Why would she come here?
Cetsa:Maybe she knows what we know...\.\. I don't know how though.\.\.
Foreman Ballar just told me about it tonight.\.\.Maybe she's just tailing us.
Kygar:She does tend to complicate matters for us,\.\. doesn't she?
Cetsa:Yes,\.\. that's why I HATE\. her.

Has anybody ever played final fantasy 8, in which all the characters knew eachother because they all went to the *cue drumrolls* EXACT SAME orphanage *end drumrolls*?
Well the way is turning out to be something similar ^_¨

somehow cetsa and kloe have met when they were young girls fighting over a necklace they found washed up on a rivershore... But now it seems that Cetsa also knows the 'shadow' scatha. And she actually hates her which hints a past run ins between these two characters. Might this also mean that they are related to eachother in fighting to get the mythical swords? or is it even deeper? Seeing as Scatha is the ugly, and cetsa always tries to be good looking (there's only the bad left, hence the song playing during the stay in lide in episode2) they are eachothers exact opposite. Might it also be that cetsa hates scatha for letting her alone a long time ago -> i'm hinting at the fact that she might be chasta's missing sister. Which would mean that cetsa would be serena (read the other topics i've currently written to know what im talking about here...)

More to think about is :
*Why does kloe hate cats?
*What's the sound gauis hears when he says duty calls? is that the sound of his weird sense gift?
*Is it gauis that killed those three people and tried to burry one hastily? It might seem as such, because he was found near them on a collapsed bridge. he might have seen rhue and trazuin coming and fled, leaving his work done half assed.
*What is the f*cking deal with that sheep rhue doesn't want to mess with ^_^

I'll probably post more in this topic as i'll finish the episode today.

[Sage Of The Wise]

Which would mean that cetsa would be serena (read the other topics i've currently written to know what im talking about here...)

The problem with that is Scatha says she knows Serena, and Cetsa isn't her, and Cetsa admitted that she wasn't Serena anyway, so unless theres some crazy plot twist(which theres bound to be at some point) Cetsa isn't Serena.

[Flibbo]

the first time i played no# 5 i misread chasta as Cetsa and i think that could actually be a possability
it would tie in with cetsa and scatha meeting beforehand.

also

*Is it gauis that killed those three people and tried to burry one hastily? It might seem as such, because he was found near them on a collapsed bridge. he might have seen rhue and trazuin coming and fled, leaving his work done half assed

i thought that from the first play, it all seemed to suspisious that he went of...slasher attack...bridge. i think he cut the bridge purposly to make it seem as if the slasher in an attampt to run away left a trap to slow persuers down. or of course thats actually IS what happend

as for the sheep (although they're called "woolies" in the way), well....your on your own. maybe he has some sort of woolie phobia (which would of been understandable if "Short Sketch" had made the final version )

[Alundra]

somehow it seems clearer to the middle of the second episode that scatha and cesta are related in SOME way, maybe not as farfetched as being sisters... but still aquinted ...
scatha:"But I must ssssay, I like your new outfit."
Cetsa after the battle with scatha says: Finally,\.\. I'm rid of that
accursed woman!" ... it occurs to me being something said when they had a couple of run ins before.

Now more questions arise: WHAT GOOD IS KLOE'S PAINTING?
WHAT'S THAT DAGGER FOR IN BALLAR'S HOUSE... if you pull it a switch goes into action: E2M8-MasterRoomOpen.... what in flaming fire's is that switch doing cuz I couldn't find it myself...

[Sage Of The Wise]

Maby its the secret switches that unlock the "real ending" that Fwacho was hinting about! i ope not though, that would just be stupid. I'll go check if the swiches are carried over to the next episodes or not, that should tell us if they're important or just random.

EDIT: I found the answer to both of your little swich problems. First, the dagger changes the door to the bedrooms graphic to an open door. I think by the time you get to that room the doors open anyway, so the daggeris pointless in the regular game, though the switch is used in a cutscene.
Next, the painting. This was a very interesting one. While its never used in EP 2, once you load your data for EP 3 part of the begging event checks to see if switch 270(The switch flipped on by seeing the painting) is flipped, and swiches it to a more permenant position in switch 704, Lun even left a note saying "Saves whether Rhue saw Kloe's painting in the last episode to the long term switch area".
I don't know if any of this effects game play yet, or if it might be important in a later episode. Wow, I strngly enjoyed looking all that stuff up. Tell me if you have any more switches you need figuring out.

[DSOK]

... it occurs to me being something said when they had a couple of run ins before.

It's dead obvious that Scatha and Cetsa have met before, but since both of them get around an awful lot, it's rather hard to say where this might have been.

[Amgard]

They could be sisters.

Cetsa is "lost" thanks to Chasta and her whimsical nature. Cetsa forever hates Scatha for this, meets with Kloe, befriends her. They find a pendant, Cetsa tosses Kloe in the river (because she's so hardcore). Having some issues, she grows up with a bad group and gathers the Blue Scarves to clean house, bitch-style.

[Alundra]

amgard, you repeated my statement and the whole deal this topic is about... I've asked this in the opening post of this topic in which i debated if they could be sisters... chasta (scatha) had a little sister indeed and i wondered if it were serena because the little girl vanished like serena did.
But as it was said by sage of the wise, cetsa herself said that she wasn't serena. If assuming the missing little girl is serena, then she can't be cetsa... and thus not the sister of scatha...
The theory would work if the missing girl would not be serena (but just plain cetsa), but i still strongly feel that it's her in fact, which would be actual proof of her existance...

[Lord_Ehrgeiz]

whos spaming?im spaming?
does it really mater (about cetsa)? she must be already dead... if you do not remember, she WAS STABED IN STOMACH!! rhue ignored her, than strata and lyrra (they must run throu same plase) do the same and finally, there was kloe, and if you count time,when she run to ex-end of a way, she coudnt helped cetsa (poor thing, i really liked her). She got dangerous wound and everybody ignired her...so, she must be dead at that time, when kloe passed by....

[Kyle]

Alundra, you're still translating?? I actually did a part of episode 1 but figured you quit since you were never around lately so I deleted it... I wasn't much anyway, but still...

Damn, send me your translation, now!

[Large]

Well, as for Scatha/Chasta, i think that Kloe is her sister. They both have blond hair, and when the shadow mother says "The litle one is gone" she doesn't mean she's dead... it could be that the girl is missing, because Cetsa pushed her into the river, where later Traziun saves her, therefore she becames a Blood Lyn.

[EmperorJeramyu]

Kloe's hair is more of a brown.

[DSOK]

Kloe's hair is more of a brown.

It's pretty much blonde--default sprite blonde.

[Sage Of The Wise]

Well, as for Scatha/Chasta, i think that Kloe is her sister. They both have blond hair, and when the shadow mother says "The litle one is gone" she doesn't mean she's dead

The mother said she was dead. Here is the exact quote, coding and all:

MOTHER: The little one is dead.\| This
would never have happened if she had been
obedient.