FFXII actually looking good.....

[DSOK]

I wasn't expecting to convince you. I just didn't find it to be a very fun game. You did. C'est la vie.

[Excell]

Well, that ends that. I also only found it mildly fun. Now back to my original point. The time period is good. No crazy ass guns and suped up space travel with time compression.

[Porter]

yea...swords with guns.....the point is.......

[DSOK]

yea...swords with guns.....the point is.......

I freely admit that gunblades are idiotic.

[Strayed Wanderer]

I'd have to agree with Excell on this... 9 was much better than 8 and 10.

Characters:

8, 10:
They were much easier to hate, Squall was by far the worst character to ever be placed in a Final Fantasy game and his rival was no better. Tidus was a little more interesting than Squall but he was still a joke, who in hell wants an athlete as a main character? The female leads in 8 and 10 were just as annoying, though Garnet was not all that great. The only decent character out of 8 and 10 was Auron, he carried alcohol and big sword.

9:
Vivi was awesome, fun little mage guy.
Zidane was a perverted thief, always fun.
Freya was a giant rat... (If you don't mind me borrowing a line and probably using it incorrectly) OMGWTFBBQ!!1!1!
Steiner was old, stupid and a heavy hitter, a sorta classic.
That chef guy was probably not the best choice of characters to put in a game, but hell... 7 had Cait Sith.

Setting:

8:
There was way too much technology and magic for it to make a decent background for the storyline. Gunblades were idiotic as you both agreed.

9:
Return to the classic kingdom style setting, can't really be beaten.

10:
Less technology but still felt too futuristic.

Storyline:

8:
There was a storyline? Haven't met many people who would deny it was the worst storyline to ever be produced. Space travel, ghostly possessions, summons, flying school buildings... just doesn't mix.

9:
The story was interesting and pulled you along for the first half, later on it felt a little cliché.

10:
Collect the summons! How fun! not really though... The beginning could be enjoyable but once you realize you are going to skip through a bunch of towns collecting summons and solving fuckingly-retarded puzzles while discovering secrets about a nonsense religious practice, you feel like burning in hell for the rest of eternity.

Systems (leveling, weapons, battle, magic):

8:
Draw was a failure and the weapon system wasn't all that great either. Completing tests for a higher wage was too much of a joke.

9:
Basic leveling, weapons and battle. Learning magic was a bit like 7, which did add an incentive for building up often.

10:
Leveling system was a failure just like Draw. From what I could remember about procuring weapons, it was basic shit... with a side of fuck-me-in-the-ass (Remember, that is a very bad thing). I did enjoy the switching of party members during battle but it probably wasn't the best idea. The monsters were all a weak to a certain characters attack type, which really made it annoying as hell. If you got too tired to switch to the right character, you just kept pressing X (or O, whatever it was) and took half an hour to beat a large slime with a sword or ball.

[Porter]

you're forgetting the "sphere" system.....quite possibly the dumbest system of all FF games. I think it up and over outdoes the draw.

[Strayed Wanderer]

That's what I meant by

10:
Leveling system was a failure...

[Excell]

Yes, Strayed is most badass. Agreed. He covered basically all of my points about those games. FF8 did have Zell though....so that was cool.

[Fredric]

I found FFTA to be an awesome game and a lot better than FF3/6. The battlesystem was great compared to other RPG/strategy games.

[Excell]

Have you played FFT?

FFTA is shit. Utter shit. Especially after playing FFT. FFT on the other hand is absolutely amazing.

The shit goes:

FF 3/6
FFT
FF7
FF9
FF2/4
FF5
FF10(UTTER SHIT)
FF8(UTTER SHIT)
FF1(UTTER SHIT)

[Fredric]

I haven't played FFT but I've played FF 6 which I thought was boring. Why do you think FFTA is shit?

[DSOK]

I found FFTA to be an awesome game and a lot better than FF3/6. The battlesystem was great compared to other RPG/strategy games.

See--other people have weird ideas about which games are worth playing too.

[Excell]

Yeah, but FFTA wasn't nearly as bad as FF8/10. I have very little respect for people who like them.

FFTA destroyed the FFT series. It had amazing potential but they blasted it to smithereens by making it more kid friendly. It's like CC. CC wasn't a bad game at all but when looking at it in the light of CT it is terrible. FFTA was so-so but not nearly anything compared to FFT.

Also, FF12 will probly take place before FFT because FFT specifically says Moogles are extinct. Moogles are in FF12.

[Telephalsion]

aww moogles are dead? shit.. waht are they going to do next? make chocobo's turn into meat?

[Excell]

Extinct. In FFT. Not in all the games.