Ultimate warrior thing.

[nerx]

I was looking through the way images, and saw that ultimate warrior name thing.. Pharaphalyn or something. This has probably been discussed before - and if so can someone point me in direction of where i can find it?
Heh, Rhue becomes the ultimate dude. I wonder when..

Nerx

[Impossible]

Please stop making individual useless topics. Try collecting all the uselessness in your posts and compressing them to somewhere we don't have to see him. Like... Not here.

The Pharaphalyn is part of the story, there's no guarantee that it's Rhue. There can only be one Pharaphalyn, and there will be some way for people to know who it is.

[Telephalsion]

The highest rank of Lyn is the Pharaphalyn, there hasn't been an active Pharaphalyn in a long time.

[nerx]

The Pharaphalyn is part of the story, there's no guarantee that it's Rhue. There can only be one Pharaphalyn, and there will be some way for people to know who it is.

Well, it is a menu screen image.. I thought that if Rhue doesn't become it, then at least you control them for quite a large portion of time - all temporary characters we have played so far disallowed us to see the menu screen. Maybe Rhue is the PS and the PS is the Pharaphalyn? Maybe the way to notice the Pharaphalyn is that when they become it they turn in to a mass murderer? Or, it could be a feature that was removed.

[Flibbo]

no id think luns just building up to it
assuming that you have to beat the Pharaphalyn to become it rhue will probably see a plunge or take part in the plunge with the Pharaphalyn at some point
my money is on traziun

[Takarious]

I'm willing to bet that at some point a giant plunge tournament will take place to somewhat determine this. Although who knows what will happen now that Rhue has looped around The Way.

[Sephiroth555]

Wait the whole thing about The Way being one continous path, never having an end... That's not definite is it? It's a theory right? I sure didnt hear it in the game...

Yeah Traziun is like the warrior. No one can stand a chance except for Rhue. Not even Traziun has that mental breakouts with large atom bomb explosions and such. Well he kinda did in the Inner Sanctum but well... thats was once.

[nerx]

Fighting the Pharaphalyn then becoming it would be cool . But, I doubt it is Traziun, I think he needed the shadow sword to kill Kalmar. I have a feeling it could be Gaius, he isn't like most wanderers afterall

[Impossible]

Wait the whole thing about The Way being one continous path, never having an end... That's not definite is it? It's a theory right? I sure didnt hear it in the game...

Some very frustrating people like Takarious and DSOK are so full of themsleves that they believe all their theories to be fact. I guess that's what fwacho was referring to about remaining on one idea...

[Sephiroth555]

Yeah I'd blame them. They probably told it so many times that I believed it was in the game. Agh, my headache... Must stop thinking...

[DSOK]

Some very frustrating people like Takarious and DSOK are so full of themsleves that they believe all their theories to be fact. I guess that's what fwacho was referring to about remaining on one idea...

I know which of my theories are overwhelmingly likely and which are mere suppositions or vague possibilities. If you want an example of people trying to shoehorn the evidence to fit a preconceived notion, there's the "Everybody in Dream Estrana was killed by Rhue" example.

[Impossible]

Of course the MUCH worse one is that "Everyone is Dream Estrana died in Estrana's destruction", even when we KNOW how someone in Dream Estrana died and we know that it wasn't in Estrana.

And at least I never stop on a single theory, I know nothing is certain.

[nerx]

Of course the MUCH worse one is that "Everyone is Dream Estrana died in Estrana's destruction", even when we KNOW how someone in Dream Estrana died and we know that it wasn't in Estrana.

And at least I never stop on a single theory, I know nothing is certain.

We all know this, in the end we know that nothing is certain, [unless we know from Lun himself] all our theories are just that, theories. That's why we call them theories of course. Some of them are extreamly unbelievable and unlikely, but the makers were just trying to theorise.

Say if the Phantom Slasher had Rhue's faceset, and charset, and Rhue had a motivation to kill each victim, and Rhue has visions of the PS, and is afriad of his reflection because he sees the PS, and even if we see the Phantom Slasher as Rhue, talking like Rhue, and acting like Rhue and showing only thoughts Rhue would know, he could in the end be Lexus. I think everyone knows that nothing is certain, but sometimes people[without meaning to] will confuse a plain fact with a theory. A world with 'magic' could be defined as a world where anything could happen.

If someone's theory is waaay off and has so many flaws its just plain stupid and they don't realise, just inform them and don't get in to arguments about it causing posts like this wasting space. And with the irony of me posting to explain the pointlessness while actually wasting space myself.. .

Oh, and don't forget the irony of my first post not containing anything of substance, what I meant to do was to ask people what they knew about it and what facts+theories they could offer. The boards can be used to combine ideas with other posters and realise things you never could before. People may be tired of posts with 'no substance' but they don't always need it. Some posts offer facts, like the victims of the PS post, and some are like this. I was thinking maybe someone could point out that at one point of the game you being able to see another character's stats through the menu which I never picked up on, or something along those lines. Someone like me who doesn't have a broad understanding of all the theories discussed may need to be informed if I can't find any information relevant to it. I see many posts trying to see what theories fit in with one another, and which ones have the most evidence.


Forums are for discussion aren't they?

[DSOK]

Of course the MUCH worse one is that "Everyone is Dream Estrana died in Estrana's destruction", even when we KNOW how someone in Dream Estrana died and we know that it wasn't in Estrana.

Yes, the theory I never advocated IS much worse.

My actual theories regarding Dream Estrana may be found here:
http://www.crestfallen.us/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=488

[nerx]

Note the use of the words might in DSOK's posts.
One of the guys who [according to Rhue] gave him his sword appears to be a headhunter without the blade on his back - maybe because he gave it to Rhue. Plus, the nature of Midian in what could be Rhue's dream would show no relevance - it could be just someone Rhue heard of before. Could. It could really just be something to throw us off. Lun could turn around in a later episode and go, yeah that's right it's just a stupid dream! Could

We have much to go on with our theories, but in a world that doesn't reflect our reality they can go by as very little. So really all we are doing is trying to see what theories make a lot of sense when glued together and which ones don't, suggesting new possibilities along the way.

Edit:
About Midian and Jeruh, I find it unlikely that multiple people could be looking for Jeruh. He could be simply dead, like all the other 'victims' of the massacre seemed to be - [the bodies were never found] Maybe Lyrra thinking everyone died WAS an invention of her mind like someone in the story once suggested.. was it Jed? Maybe she saw something so horrific and so signifigant that night that it was so much less traumatic to imagine they all died? If multiple people are looking for Jeruh, then why not Serena [if she exists] or 'Jeruh's friends'? I think although I've heard the name of the person the first head hunter was looking for had changed, I don't think it makes it anymore less relevant to the plot. Gaius and Jeruh are both seemingly VERY important characters to the plot, and even more so with the event of the second head hunter.

IMO, Lun is extreamly cunning. He knows all the things we will try to pick up on, and he uses them to further throw us off track. You never know really.. I have a whacky theory ive got going that Gaius is Jeruh, and he caused the landorian massacre in some way but didn't really kill anyone. He does seem genuinley commited to doing what he believes is right fir the way, or at least it seems that way to me...

Heh, I just realised how much that theory could make sense. He could be leading all the traitorous Guided in to a trap. Damn! that makes sense. Of course it's been discussed before but "The man from Xor will be meeting us here" "The Phantom Slasher is a tool of Tetzel" Jeez, it all fits togethet now and I see the light.. He is a tool of what he believes is right and Tetzel may be manipulating him.. "If he doesn't remember me.. this is great!" Rhue knew that he was the PS aswell as Jeruh? "So much meaningless killing" Gaius may believe that killing can be justified with meaning.

Sorry, I'm half asleep and can already see all the flaws there so I'm going to bed. Heh.
[please no flaming ]