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Postby Impossible » Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:36 pm

Whether or not you beat Strata may affect the branching storylines thing...
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Postby Sephiroth555 » Sat Mar 26, 2005 7:49 am

I pwn3d Strata :p I did 50+ dmg to him a few times but I couldnt do a level 4 injury...

Anyway, I was thinking about the shadow swords. How come we don't see the swords Ghost Horror and Night Reaper attaining new auras and such? When Traziun obtains Night Reaper, he just gets a new set of fancy skills. Whereas Aubuta, instead of getting it you get some fancy skills, you have to absorb auras with it to make it more and more powerful. Thus, Aubuta was originally weaker than Ghost Horror and Night Reaper until it attains more auras and keeps levelling up those auras and eventually becomes stronger than the other shadow swords. So then if this were true, Rhue has a sword with the capability to destroy anyone wielding the shadow swords because his wouldn't be limited.

Just a little theory I made...

One more thing I'd like to point out. When Slade died, and Rhue walks up to him, Rhue did not knock Slade's sword out of his grasp, whereas when Rhue killed Lyrra, he knocked Lyrra's sword to some place far away. Therefore, I think that Slade at that time had no shadow sword, but Lyrra did. And she probably had the Ghost Horror.
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Postby Impossible » Sat Mar 26, 2005 2:41 pm

Rhue's sword (possibly Aubuta) was stuck in Slade.
Traziun found Night Reaper, which fell into the Pits in E2.
Kalmar's Ghost Horror somehow (I don't seem to remember why at the moment >_>) ended up in Lyrra's hands... And then she died.
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Postby Culix » Sat Mar 26, 2005 3:09 pm

Impossible wrote:Kalmar's Ghost Horror somehow (I don't seem to remember why at the moment >_>) ended up in Lyrra's hands... And then she died.

After Kalmar kicked the bucket, he said that his blade would go to another shortly before Ghost Horror flew off. Then, a little while after, we saw Slade getting up, but still very badly injured with a sword, presumably Ghost Horror, lying next to his bed/table. He gets up to get some medicine from another room before a Blood Lyn chases Lyrra into his room. Since Lyrra shows up with a sword, incredibly pissed off at Strata later, it's presumed that she grabbed Ghost Horror and, with it, was able to kill a trained Blood Lyn. Then, after Rhue killed her, he knocked the weapon away.
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Postby Impossible » Sat Mar 26, 2005 3:25 pm

Ah, Ghost Horror "flew off". But Slade had Rhue's sword embedded in him; the PS pulled it out and Rhue got his new sword auras.
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Postby Jabbo » Sat Mar 26, 2005 7:14 pm

I'm sure this has already been said/assumed or whatever, but after the scene with Traziun and Kalmar, the RM2k switch "stench of death" was turned on. The event of the sword by where Slade is lying is called "GHOST HORROR" and is activated by switch "stench of death." Like Culix said, when Lyrra ran into the room, she had to get out somehow, so it's assumed that she picked up the sword and killed the blood lyn chasing her (How could Lyrra hope to stand up against trained killers, even with a shadow sword? Must be an innately powerful blade able to respond to emotions... unlike Rhue's sword). After Rhue knocked the sword from Lyrra's hands, switch "show sword" was turned on, which triggered the event showing a sword lying on the ground. Then Rhue knocks it in an up-leftward direction and runs off to the End of the Way. I don't think the sword's gone yet. Provided that it doesn't pull another fly off of its own accord stunt, it was headed in Cetsa's direction.
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Postby Impossible » Sat Mar 26, 2005 7:50 pm

Must be an innately powerful blade able to respond to emotions... unlike Rhue's sword


Rhue's sword DOES respond to his emotions...When he gets angry, it goes insane (against Slade, if you lose to the shadow man in the Pits, in the Blana Sera Temple). Slade watched Lyrra get chased into that room, and the sword must have done most of the work when she picked it up.
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Postby Antagon » Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:25 pm

If Ghost Horror was by Slade when he was unconscious wouldn't that mean the sword was MEANT for HIM? It might not end up being important, but still... I would think the sword would choose a skilled fighter over a puny girl wanderer.
And as Jabbo said, it was headed to Cetsa's direction... where Slade is too. Maybe the sword will somehow revitalize him? Well, IF it was meant for him... and if this sword can do that :shock:
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Postby Culix » Sun Mar 27, 2005 12:45 am

Antagon wrote:If Ghost Horror was by Slade when he was unconscious wouldn't that mean the sword was MEANT for HIM? It might not end up being important, but still... I would think the sword would choose a skilled fighter over a puny girl wanderer.

Yeah. I've always thought that the weapon intended to wind up in Slade's hands. Which, considering something Kalmar said...

KALMAR: Alagard,\.\. you were to
be the instrument of perfect justice!\.\.

... and how devoted to justice Slade is, may imply that the Shadow Swords, or at least Ghost Horror, are concerned with seeing justice (or their skewed perception of justice, at any rate) served.

And as Jabbo said, it was headed to Cetsa's direction... where Slade is too. Maybe the sword will somehow revitalize him? Well, IF it was meant for him... and if this sword can do that :shock:

I kinda doubt that it could revitalize Slade. If it could restore people to life, then it would have saved Kalmar, I'd imagine. Then again, there is a distressingly large number of things we don't know about Shadow Swords, so...
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Postby Impossible » Sun Mar 27, 2005 3:47 am

Now, that's an interesting theory...
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Postby fwacho » Sun Mar 27, 2005 8:56 pm

hey, a new idea... I haven't read one of those in awhile. The rest of you need to get off your duffs and start some fresh brainstorming again.
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Postby Impossible » Sun Mar 27, 2005 9:21 pm

I'll do it this afternoon! </whiny voice>

The theories will be coming in very fast once E6 is out...
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Postby Berserker » Mon Mar 28, 2005 6:30 am

This is the proof I was looking for: Fwacho and Lun are delaying Ep6 cause they have just too much fun watching us trying to make up some theories without concrete evidence!
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Postby Sephiroth555 » Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:52 am

They know how to torture us most harshly but we still come here anyway :P
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Postby DSOK » Tue Mar 29, 2005 3:07 pm

Culix wrote:Yeah. I've always thought that the weapon intended to wind up in Slade's hands. Which, considering something Kalmar said...

KALMAR: Alagard,\.\. you were to
be the instrument of perfect justice!\.\.

... and how devoted to justice Slade is, may imply that the Shadow Swords, or at least Ghost Horror, are concerned with seeing justice (or their skewed perception of justice, at any rate) served.

That the sword was meant for Slade seemed an obvious possibility; why else should it appear at his bedside? (Of course, this scenario does imply a certain lack of proper planning/intelligence on behalf of the sword, or Kalmar, or whoever determined its destination. Slade was incapacitated an unable to claim the weapon, so perhaps it indeed was meanr for Lyrra.)

However, let us for the moment assume that the blade was sent to Slade. This discussion of Slade's character set me thinking: What if Slade, not Gaius, was the perfect blade? The suggestion in the game that it was Gaius was made with, what seemed to me, an artificially high degree of uncertainty. (This is merely a vague impression, though, and it cannot be rigorously justified.) This would change our conception of what the perfect blade is, but not too much. Of all the characters we've met, Slade is probably the most easily manipulated, and he could certainly have been meant as a pawn in the Dark Lyn's schemings.
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