I hate Gaius.

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I hate Gaius.

Postby nerx » Fri Apr 15, 2005 2:47 am

So, the scene is epsidoe 2, the start. The PS goes up to Rhue with his sword drawn, waits. Rhue goes WHO ARE YOU? The PS goes "..." Then Walks down infront where Rhue might have a better view. Without his sword this time. Rhue still goes - WTF WHO ARE YOU and then the PS gives up and walks off. Later Gaius goes "Rhue doesn't seem to remember me at all" Of course, we have heaps more linkage to Gaius being the PS, but it seems it was just made too obvious that everyone overlooked it? Or what? Jeez, it seems too obvious too me.. Then at the end of ep5, Gaius is like "Don't you kow Rhue?" "Your the Phantom Slasher!!" Maybe Gaius wants to forget those days when Rhue, him and some other dude went around pretending not to know how to talk. Or, maybe this was the signal to lets get up and start killing some dudes. And Rhue didn't seem to recognise it anymore. I guess the question is not who is the PS but what is the deal with the PS o.O So maybe the Midian aura switch with Rhue theory was right all along... There is something really odd going on here, what is this kill club? Gaius just sucks.

Of course this is only a theory, it seems to obvious to me to be correct, so there must be a whole lot more to the story. Maybe we will be trying to look at why they all went around killing back in the day? Fwacho seems to always hint to more than one slasher. Why would they do something like this? Is Gaius really, really, really sick and evil and is downright happy about it? There's got to be some explaination :(.. Aura switiching still doesn't explain why a bunch of dudes would go around killing like it was a ruitine thing.. Maybe it is that they kill anyone who doesn't believe in the purpose, maybe ALL along Gaius is just an over-zealous Guided?

If he was a girl in the way I would SO put our relationship down. Please tell me Gaius isn't an evil bastard :P He may as well said "Hey Rhue, get that sword ready lets go slash :D I got some good heads yesterday :)" Or he could go "Hey Midian :)" Or "Hey Jeruh :)" Or even "Hey Dippy" But it still won't explain why Gaius is evil :?

But this seems too obvious.. maybe the true question wasn't meant to be who are the slashers, but what is up with them? :/ Please tell me Gaius isn't evil. Yeah, I see theories discussing who the PS is and why, but maybe we should be asking what the HELL is the motif?

Please.
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Postby Impossible » Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:29 am

TOO :( MANY :evil: SIMILIES :twisted:
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Postby nerx » Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:39 am

It's because I liked Gaius as a character, but the more I think about it he seems evil. At any rate, if you watch that scene it really seems like the PS wanted Rhue to recognise him..
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Postby Kyle » Fri Apr 15, 2005 4:49 am

Just like most characters on the way, Gaius isn't really evil or good. I think he must have been a good person when he was younger or Kloe wouldn't have fallen in love with him. Now, he's probably acting a bit more evil (at the end of E5), but that may just be because he's being VERY serious and the facts that are about to be revealed are VERY important to perhaps the entire Way.

I wouldn't classify him as a bad guy just yet, although there's definately the chance he'll choose his job (if it's even a job) above his personal feelings. I don't see him killing Kloe though... I think he also loved her and maybe the feelings he had in his youth is what's holding him back.
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Postby nerx » Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:05 am

Thanks, I needed that.
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Postby Sephiroth555 » Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:44 am

Kyle wrote:Just like most characters on the way, Gaius isn't really evil or good.

Nothing is that black and white in this game. Everything in The Way has heir own bad side and good side, which I found Lun to be extremely good at showing, espically with Rhue.

In the beginning, Rhue was a narrow-mindedly going to find his lost love, and his only purpose in life. It was a 2d Rhue that we were introduced to in the beginning. After E5, Rhue is becoming more 3d. Yes it is about finding Serena, but it's not only about that. It's who Rhue is. At one point we can see him mercilessly killing many Lyn, and in another point he could be remembering how beautiful Serena was to him.

Erm... Sorry went off track didn't I?

Gaius is a bit like Slade, but unlike Slade, Gaius is serving himself. In Christianity, it's either you serve God, or you don't. Slade was with corruption, and no matter how just his actions were, he was serving something dishonourable and shameful. Thus, it led to his downfall. Gaius is serving himself, at least from what we can draw so far. He leads Rhue, Scatha and Dirk into a forest, and acts like a leader, but later on he is running ahead of them, telling Rhue that if you have to keep up because he wasn't stopping... I also believe Gaius does not want a partner, as it would make him weaker in that if he did submit is love to Kloe, he couldn't serve himself. I don't think Kloe did anything wrong, it's just Gaius acts upon his own will. Everyone has killed, but he gets angry at Kloe? How do we know that because he saw in a vission that Kloe killed Ballar, that this made him angry? It probably just sickened him, and gave him a new reason to drive Kloe further away from him.

That's why I believe, Gaius will be brought to his downfall, whenever that may be...
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Postby nerx » Fri Apr 15, 2005 9:25 am

Yes, I have lots of theories concerning Gaius which I have posted here, but this just seemed a bit too compelling..
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Re: I hate Gaius.

Postby fwacho » Sun Apr 17, 2005 7:24 pm

nerx wrote: Yeah, I see theories discussing who the PS is and why, but maybe we should be asking what the HELL is the motif?

Please.


Yes... you should... this will clear things up a bit and show the truth about what is really going on. that is if you can find each person's motive. Gaius in particular.
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Postby Christophomicus » Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:41 am

Wow, once again, I am dumbfounded by the number of possiblities that could come up... nice job, you guys.
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Postby fwacho » Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:21 pm

Christophomicus wrote:Wow, once again, I am dumbfounded by the number of possiblities that could come up... nice job, you guys.

list 'em it'll help you. i would suggest a list of each person's possible motives for what they do... It will be a long but interesting post.
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Postby Flibbo » Tue Apr 19, 2005 5:55 am

seems like a plan
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Rhue: pretty much just Serena. He'll do anything to get to her, like some crazed stalker (well thats pretty much what he is really)

Traziun: Avenging his mother's death

Lyrra: Wants her life to be an exciting story? or is she just using that as an escape for all the trauma in her life?

Scatha: Well she helps japoga because he said he could fix her face but what about saving rhue from the prison or going after tetzel?

Strata: He wants fame, fortune and for people to admire him

Slade: true uncorrupted justice and to protect innocent women

Cetsa: a good question actually, why does she want the sword in lide and why does she command the blue scarves? Does she just want random power? Is she just interested in her own well being?

Kygar: I understood him until he comes back to fight rhue in episode 5 (and loses dramatically). why did he do that?

Dirk: Kloe and Cetsa? prefferably together?

Velicia: Whatever Tetzel tells her, she seems pretty loyal to him.

Sacrifa: To cure his love/Revenge for stoning of love

Lexus: assuming that Sorya was telling the truth its just to be like Dancing Violet but i suspect theres a bit more going on there

Gaius: It is hinted that he is the "perfect blade" so perhaps he just wants to do what that entails? Theres definitly something going on there

The PS: There must be some sort of link bettween his victims. I'm gonna go through the game in rpg maker and make a list of all known ps attacks at some point tonight and i'll post it up in here. All we know for sure is that he seems quite intent on keeping rhue safe or at least helping him every now and then.
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Postby Nurazhi » Tue Apr 19, 2005 7:26 am

Hello, all. I have never posted before, as I'm sure you can see. But I'm obsessed with The Way and have thus been forced to come here and talk about it. I just finished Ep 5 (again) a few minutes ago, and I have a well grounded theory about Gaius, which I haven't seen echoed around here, although I haven't read every post.

I think that Gaius is the Perfect Blade and the Phantom Slasher. There was already evidence that the Slasher kills both criminal types and the Guided. In Ep 2, those bandits who killed that boy's father say that they noticed the PS only killed..."good men." Ostensibly, they were going to say bandits, and didn't because they were trying to hide it. This also explains why Gaius told Kloe that he would have to kill her, and how he has been able to sense both nearby death (Rhue killing Lyrra) and people's past sins (Kloe killing Ballar).

As others have said, there is a lot of evidence for Gaius being the PS, it's almost obvious at this point, and I won't go into it. But I think that this evidence I'm presenting points to the fact that the PS is the Perfect Blade, a vigilante (lower case V) working for Traziun's father to kill the wicked on The Way. We usually see the PS killing Bandits anyway, although he does seem to ocassionally kill innocents that are near bandits. The system might be flawed.

How the hell Rhue ties in to all of this, I have no idea.
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Postby Sage Of The Wise » Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:13 pm

If the PS is Gaius, hes probably either following and helping Rhue so he can either get his sword, or hes trying to get the old Rhue back, for whatever reason (maby its since they were friends), and has just been keeping him alive long enough to get him to were ever they are now.
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Postby Sephiroth555 » Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:12 pm

Flibbo wrote:Kygar: I understood him until he comes back to fight rhue in episode 5 (and loses dramatically). why did he do that?

Dirk: Kloe and Cetsa? prefferably together?

Yeh that battle in E5 with Kygar was just totally random... However, just before they fight, there were Blue Scarves harrassing Kloe, so maybe since Cetsa has gone off and left, Kygar has now taken over the Blue Scarves...

Lol with the Dirk one... :lol:
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Postby nerx » Wed Apr 20, 2005 12:01 am

Gaius is following Rhue, I believe because Rhue, or the old owner of Rhue's body, or Rhue's aura or something, knew Gaius, and knew he was the PS. Obviously Rhue has changed, and Gaius senses his aura as "muddled" Now knowing that Rhue really doesn't remember, it's time to get him out of the way.
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