Ghost Horror at the end of episode 5 (obvious spoilers)

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Ghost Horror at the end of episode 5 (obvious spoilers)

Postby sqpat17 » Sun Mar 27, 2005 2:05 pm

I think it's obvious by now that the Ghost Horror appeared in Slade's room and Lyrra took it, used it to kill the blood lyn, etc. But after Rhue knocks it away, that can't be the end of the sword. Someone had to have gotten it (or has yet to) I think.

Kloe: Probably the most likely. She came from the direction the Ghost Horror was knocked towards, and there was enough time afterwards for her to have picked it up. She was following Rhue/Gaius at the end of chapter 5, and she'll probably show up at the start of Episode 6. If he hasn't sensed it already, it would be quite a shock to Gaius to see Kloe with his master's (?) sword, especially if he's trying to take Rhue's. Kloe mentioned he'd make him kill her, and that just might be what makes him try (if Rhue doesn't stop him). The only thing I can't think of is a motive. Would she really just pick up a random sword? Maybe if she saw Lyrra's death from afar, I guess.

Cetsa: I guess it's possible... but I get the feeling that she wasn't close enough to where Rhue killed Lyrra for it to reach her. I just don't think she can die yet, since she mentioned some reoccuring nightmare or memory or something the pendant gave her. Kinda stupid if that was mentioned without it ever being shown (unless someone else picks up the pendant or something)

Slade: Maybe the sword flew over and landed in his chest. "Oof! Stabbed by two shadow swords in one week!" Okay, maybe not.

Scatha: Where did she and dirk go, anyways? Anyways, I kinda doubt it since she didn't strike me as one to use swords. (And by the same logic, we don't know what happened to Dippy, and he's not one who would use swords either... so maybe it's stupid to even mention her)

Traziun: Doubt it, he already had his own, and I get the feeling that cliff he was shown on wasn't close to the events that were happening towards the end of the way. Wouldn' t make much sense for him to have two.

Strata: Well, he's not dead. Does he follow you if you don't plunge him? I was thinking maybe he goes back later, finds the sword and picks it up, and it drives him mad kinda like it did to Lyrra. He could then use its power to try and kill Rhue. If Rhue has an/the illuminati, then maybe this would be the 'light sword' vs 'dark sword' match-up or something? Bleh

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Postby Culix » Sun Mar 27, 2005 4:48 pm

I've always thought that it would end up in Strata's hands. He's been Rhue's nemesis since the series began and something tells me that he isn't through yet. Rhue's powerful enough to beat him, but that probably has something to do with his sword. If Strata gets Ghost Horror, they'll either be on equal footing, or Strata will be in a position to reclaim his combat superiority to Rhue.

Also, just as a slightly amusing, if stupid idea, Lun could, if he wanted to jettison almost his entire fanbase in one fell swoop, have the following scene play out:

Traziun: "Whelp. Off I go to get revenge by killing (Rhue and/or Gaius)."
*Ghost Horror flies in and imbeds itself in his cranium*
Traziun: "... Huh... Didn't see that one coming..." *dies*
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Postby CrimsonFenrir » Sun Mar 27, 2005 5:07 pm

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Postby Amgard » Mon Apr 18, 2005 9:34 pm

Kloe: Sort of not likely. Even though she's in the right place and time, her character is kind of unlikely to incorperate an unfathomably evil power that corrupts. Plus given her situation (Wanted to die) and knowledge of Shadow Swords (What Ballar told her), she wouldn't take it

Slade: Zombie Slade! Rarrghhh!

Cetsa: Possible. But since she's gone good, it'd be kind of sad to see her go 180 all over again.

Scatha: (She does use a sword, BTW. Watch the Ballar cave scene) It's entirely possible she could get it. She's a little power-hungry, she lacks morals, but then again she protected Night Reaper for awhile, I doubt she'd use Ghost Horror again

Strata: Most likely. He' s shamed, weak, pissed off and utterly emotionally distraught. All of this because of Rhue. Strata would definitely jump at anything to give him an edge over Rhue, even if it meant sacrificing every he loved and cared for. You can tell he's the sort of fella to take defeat badly. He'll either take it and become a big threat, join up with the good guys, or die. He's pretty much stuck in terms of choices.
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Postby Impossible » Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:14 am

I'll be really pissed off if Kloe gets it. I think Strata is a good choice, because after E5 (assuming you beat him), he will no longer appear as the big bad rival - unless he suddenly becomes super strong and insane, and tries to avenge Lyrra's death. Him getting the shadow sword would be kind of predictable, though...
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Postby Alundra » Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:01 am

Only thing I hope is that Lun doesn't go the path of many other stories...
Such as 'collect all the mighty kick ass demon swords and become the mightest person alive'... or the alternative:'oh no my best friend just collected all the mighty kick ass demon swords and became the mightest person alive and now we have to fight eachother till an uncertain death follows, probably followed by some mushy scene in which the dying friend begs for mercy and they become friends and then he dies in the arms of the hero'.... that would really suck... :roll:
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Postby Kyle » Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:55 am

Kloe: It's possible. If she did pick it up without knowing what power it holds (perfectly possible) she could maybe offer it to Gaius? Maybe even as a toll for her own death?

Traziun: Dual wielding Traziun... Take his awesomeness to the next level! Unlikely though.

Strata: Maybe, although in my game he just ran after Rhue (didn't fight him). Then again, this episode has many branches it seems so all is possible.

Scatha & Dirk: Perhaps she or Dirk picked it up. Then, if the way proves to repeat itself, they can give the shadow sword to the new Rhue.

Slade: No.

Cetsa: I actually think this could be her savior. Who knows? Maybe the shadow sword infuses her with life energy again?

There, my two cents. Also, welcome back Alundra :)
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Postby Alundra » Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:48 am

Thanks kyle, though I was never really gone. I still read the board about twice every week... but I was too busy with graduating and stuff... (trying to at least ^_^)

Anyhow...
Kloe: Sort of not likely. Unless the aura of the sword posessess her like what happened to Lyrra...

Slade: I still doubt that this guy is dead somehow... and seeing as the swords have special names like ghost horror... I am thinking that we might see something like an evil incarnate slade or something, which would be a rather sweet twist as slade's the lapdog of justice. It wouldn't bee too farfetched seeing as the dude had a sword stuck in his chest... it might have left certain traces...

Cetsa: Possible. But she's not evil (don't flame me, its my perception of her), so see same thing as Kloe.

Scatha: She did hunt for the sword, but we don't know with what purpose, so much is left to guessing.

Strata: Most likely. He truly might shape up to be the final boss or something if lun adds one of those...
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~Alundra~ says:i'll just be sitting next to you going woeh woeh woeh ¨-^
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Postby Sephiroth555 » Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:05 pm

We should do bets on who you think is most likely to obtain Ghost Horror. 5 bucks on Zombie Slade :lol:
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Postby nerx » Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:04 am

Slade killed himself for the reason of NOT having perfect justice, then he's going to become the perfect blade? Maybe Ghost Horror was meant for him, but he's not going to use it. Unlikely.
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Postby Antagon » Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:20 am

fwacho wrote: Also... you assume that seven evil swords would be willing to be around each other much more work together.


I bet the swords arent even evil. Theyre just powerful, and like Traziun said once, people just can't handle power. (said before)
I bet what they ARE meant for is to be seperated though. So people couldnt gang up with a bunch of shadow swords and take over the way or anything, instead the owners of shadow swords would fight to the death if they tried something like that (they wouldn't even need motive, would they? the swords would just posess them if they had to, and then begins the killin spree).

Maybe they're all equal in power too... maybe Aubuta isn't the ultimate sword, but Kalmar was afraid of it because he perceived a wielder of a fellow "Shadow Sword" as an equal, and he didn't want to take the chance of dying and losing what he has.
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Postby Sage Of The Wise » Thu Apr 21, 2005 1:29 pm

Antagon wrote:they wouldn't even need motive, would they? the swords would just posess them if they had to, and then begins the killin spree.


Hmmm... could that have been what happend in the Landorin Massacre?
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Postby Lord_Ehrgeiz » Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:51 pm

strange, i always thought, that owners of shadow swords goes nuts 'coz of strong motive - Rhue want Serena, Lyrra and Traziun wants revenge.
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Postby Culix » Fri Apr 22, 2005 12:27 am

Lord_Ehrgeiz wrote:strange, i always thought, that owners of shadow swords goes nuts 'coz of strong motive - Rhue want Serena, Lyrra and Traziun wants revenge.

Perhaps motivation is one of the things that induces that kind of bloodlust, but it clearly isn't the only thing that does so. I mean, look back at the scene in the Pits with the Shadow Man. Rhue gets way too pissed off for it to be something natural, given what we see. And I don't think it was because the Shadow Man may have just killed Scatha, Rhue's only sure way of returning to the surface, because he doesn't seem to get too upset when she refuses to take him up until after he gets lost.

Also, just because it came to mind, I'm going to put out a theory that I haven't thought through very far, but which just came to me. I'm confident someone has said something like this before, but suppose Shadow Swords can form a shadowy being from the darkness in the hearts around them if nobody is yet wielding them and they are close enough to the Lord of the Pits. Perhaps the Shadow Man was borne from Scatha's bad memories and aching heart when she got too close to it. As its sprite resembles Midian's (yeah, I know that Lun often gets a kick out of seeing how sprite shadow shapes (to use a godawful description) are used in theories, but...), that could mean he and Scatha have some history together. He could even have been the man she was having 'inappropriate relations' with when Slade caught her.

Of course, that's only if you trust the theory. Which I don't. Feels a tad too newbish, somehow... And not the good, 'here's something everyone missed somehow' newbie but the bad, 'I'm going to put up an ill-conceived idea' newbie. Then again, if I realize it's that bad, I guess it means there's some hope for me.
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