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Postby OverlordBill » Tue May 03, 2005 1:37 pm

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Postby Impossible » Tue May 03, 2005 4:07 pm

Don't have time to read all that now, but the writer sounded somewhat closed-minded to new ideas. DNA did in fact approve of many of the changes to the plot in the movie, and plenty of things (such as the POV gun, both new main characters, and the planet that attacks people when they get an idea) were his ideas. Most of the things I thought HAD to be left in that weren't were from the first three chapters, nearly everything else I was happy with.

I've found some other reviews which not only agree with some of the more positive things I think of the movie, but have even made me think about it a bit more, too. No, it's not perfect, and there were definitely parts that could have been kept funnier or more interesting, but it's not meant to be exactly like the book, TV show or radio series. And I think it's a good movie.
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Postby Shade » Tue May 03, 2005 5:56 pm

OverlordBill wrote:The movie didn't feel like Douglas Adams. It felt like Hollywood and capitalism.

cap·i·tal·ism
n.
An economic system in which the means of production and distribution are privately or corporately owned and development is proportionate to the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free market.

What does capitalism have anything to do with this?
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Postby OverlordBill » Tue May 03, 2005 6:11 pm

The fact that life and capitalism are only one letter apart.
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Postby loona » Tue May 03, 2005 11:27 pm

It makes Bill a true individual.
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Postby Teenr0cker » Wed May 04, 2005 1:25 am

Alright, since me and my friend were discussing this yesterday, I want to move on to a subtopic here: Milliway's, which is better known as the "Restraunt At The End of the Universe". Warning!!! The following may or may not concern the second film's plotline. You have been warned.


The Guide Defines Milliways as this: The Restraunt at the End of the Universe is one of the most extrordinary adventures in the entire history of catering. A vast time bubble has been projected into the future to the precise moment at the end of the universe.This is, of course, impossible. In it, guests take their places at their table and eat sumtious meals (it that correct? I'm using the audio file) whilst watching the whole of creation explode about them. This is, of course, impossible. You can arrive from any city you like without prior reservation because you can book retrospectively, as it were, when you return to your own time. This is, of course, impossible. At the restraunt, you can meet and dine with a fascinating crosssection of the entire population of space and time. This is, of course, impossible. You can visit it as many times as you like and be sure of never meeting yourself because of the embarassment that usually causes. This is, of course, impossible. All you have to do is deposit one penny in your savings account in your own era and when you arrive at the end of time, the operation of compound interest means that the fabulous cost of your meal has been payed for. (Saying the following with a tired and bored tone)This is, of course, impossible. Which is why the advertising executives of the star system of BlasterBlon came up with this slogan: If you've done six impossible things this morning, why not round it off with breakfast a Milliway's, the restraunt at the end of the universe?

Now this perplexes me: according to the TV series, which was pretty close to the storyline of the book, so I am told, our group of hitchhikers will somehow end up at Milliway's, witness the amazing end of the universe, and then fly away....I have most reason to believe that they are sent through both time and space to milliway's, minutes before the end of existence. Yet somehow, after watching some of it go *poof*, they decide to leave on a ship and some stuff happens. This ship lacks the capability to travel through time, so wouldn't they be screwed because existance is ending?

I don't know whether it was rational thinking or simply stroke of luck, but I somehow stated yesterday that in order for such a scientific anomally to occur, Time and Space must be interwoven at some point...this conclusion works for how they left the space and time of THE END, but confuses me as to when/where it began or ended...has anyone else read the series or seen the TV show that can relate to what I'm saying?
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Postby Impossible » Wed May 04, 2005 1:51 am

They left the end of time in the same way they got there.

I don't really remember since I read the books ages ago, but I have some faint recollection of there being a way to travel back through time again from Milliways.
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Postby Nurazhi » Wed May 04, 2005 8:27 am

In the radio show and the TV series, our heroes are hiding behind a computer bank explodes on Magrathea and getting fired out by police. The computer bank explodes (it turns out to be a hyperspatial field generator) and sends them through time to the Restaurant at the End of the Universe, which turns out to be on Magrathea, just far in the future. In the book, they are on Frogstar World B, and the Heart of Gold sends them into the future to the restaurant, which this time is on Frogstar World B, just far into the future.

In both cases, the Restaurant works the same way. It is contained within some kind of spacio-temporal bubble, which constantly racks it back and forth between the moments before and the moments just after the end of the universe. It itself is not destroyed, because, relative to the universe, the restaurant is in something like stasis (IE not affected by time or space outside of it). Now this is, of course, impossible, and the physics and logic of it are never really explained. But they do admit that it's impossible, but that it works anyway.

In all versions, the crew leave by stealing a ship that has time travel, and travelling back to two million years before they started.
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Postby OverlordBill » Wed May 04, 2005 1:10 pm

In an infinite universe, anything is possible.
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Postby Teenr0cker » Wed May 04, 2005 5:11 pm

Yeah...you know what? I'll go with that then...
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Postby War » Wed May 04, 2005 10:28 pm

Personal I like the story that talks about the a planet were scientist made a house that could fly. It just so happens a party was happening in the house and they hijacked it. Whenever they ran out of party supplies they would just land and raid a town. thus the plant had gone back to them middle ages. I can't remember were this was at and whether it was in the first book at all.
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Postby Sage Of The Wise » Fri May 06, 2005 8:14 pm

I finally got a chance to see the movie, I liked it alot. Marvin was great, usually pesimistic characters suck, but he was hystericle. One thing I didn't get was why they brang Marvins arm with them while saving Trillian, I must have missed somthing.
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Postby War » Fri May 06, 2005 10:15 pm

It was a joke like "Lend me a hand" and then they really took his hand.
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Postby Impossible » Fri May 06, 2005 10:17 pm

I'm sure War's simple mind found that side-splittingly hilarious.
It was a fake weapon to scare people into thinking they were dangerous.
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Postby War » Sat May 07, 2005 12:36 am

Impossible don't start it. We all know about your complexes problems with your own self image.
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