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Postby Sinova » Sun Apr 04, 2004 9:36 pm

I have been looking through Episode 5's character sets and found something very interesting. You know in the scene where Rhue is transported to dream Estrana, and there is that blonde haired girl waiting outside for someone. Well her character set exactly matches Chasta's character set. If you don't believe me, check them out.

Chasta's character set: WayShadowFamily
Blonde haired girl: EstranaKids1

I think someone said that this dream Estrana was where all the dead people linger. If Chasta is really Scatha, then how the frick is she in dream Estrana!? My guess is that this blonde haired girl has been waiting for Slade.

Another thing, I may have possibly found out who gave Rhue his sword. In Episode Two, you see two shadow people. I searched the chara sets in Episode 5 for matches and I found that Jopaga's chara set fits the shadow person on the left, however the head was a bit different. If not Jopaga, it could be another scientist(Eyashu?).

Jopaga's set: WayE4NPCPoses1 and EstranaNPC15(He's wearing a white labcoat)
Shadow guy 1: WayE2NPCPoses4

For Shadow guy 2, the one standing on the right, it was a bit weird. It matched this soldier-type person who I think we don't even know yet.

Shadow guy 2: WayE2NPCPoses4
Soldier Guy: WayMidNPCs3(head is a bit different)

Someone said that the shadow man in the Pits was Midian. In my opinion, I'd say it was Traziun. Why? Have a look at their battle stance. Yeah, I know they're holding their swords differently but they both have one arm in front of them and using their fingers to beckon. Also, in Lide, Traziun saw the shadow sword(If I'm not mistaken, it is called the Night Reaper) fall down in the Pits. It would make more sense if Traziun was the man in the Pits. The sword must have made him go crazy. Check out the stances if you want.

Traziun battle stance: WayTraziunBattle
Shadow man in Pits' stance: WayShadowMan1Battle

Another thing, in the chara set EstranaNPC15, there is a female scientist next to Jopaga. If you can remember in Episode 4 during the shadow lord infiltration when you are searching for the key in the lab(MAP: Area#11 -Exper. Room), you hear a conversation between two people:

VOICE #1: You seem unsure... Why is
that?
VOICE #2: I........ I........
VOICE #1: You're afraid of me...
This is understandable... But
please,.. tell me the truth.
VOICE #2: We wanted to get the
formula done,.. it's just that Jopaga
has gone mad!
VOICE #1: You are aware then that
the formula was to be completed
by today.
VOICE #2: He took control over all the
projects... There wasn't anything
I could do!
VOICE #1: That's the reason for
the delay?
VOICE #2: Yes.
VOICE #1: Can you do it without
him?
VOICE #2: It will be more difficult...
But I think I'll be able to produce
something of similiar effect to what
we originally agreed too.
VOICE #1: Good... You will be spared
the fate of your comrades... Come with
me.

VOICE #1 could be: Gaius, the phantom slasher or Sacrifa
VOICE #2 could possibly be the female scientist.

One last thing, in the credits of Episode 5, you see four people walking in the snow. The first person is an event called "You Know Who", he must be Tetzel. The second person is the event called "SHADOW" whoever he is. The third event is called "BLUE" and the fourth is Rhan(His girlfriend died in Estrana I think). I was wondering why Rhan was following these people.

Anyway, all the things I have said could be wrong.
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Postby Excell » Sun Apr 04, 2004 9:49 pm

I always thought the guy in the Pits you fought was Traziun. It makes perfect sense to me. You know he wanted to get the Shadow Sword that Rhue knocked away. He ends up having it when he slaughters the Blood Lyn and beats his dad. I think it makes perfect sense because Scatha definitely wanted something badly too....probly the Shadow Sword. This is the only theory besides my Gaius being evil that I completely believe is correct. Well?
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Postby Impossible » Sun Apr 04, 2004 10:46 pm

Fucking hell, Excell, stop misquoting yourself as me.
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Postby HumanBean17 » Sun Apr 04, 2004 10:51 pm

Those are good observations... I noticed that about "You-Know-Who," and the others as well... However, the character set match-ups are probably coincidences... Lun probably just modeled the shadows after them. But I think your theory about Chasta waiting for Slade is very interesting. I always assumed the thing you fight in the pits wasn't human... but your guys' theories about Traziun being that shadow creature make pretty good sense... Interesting...
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Postby Sinova » Sun Apr 04, 2004 10:53 pm

If the man in the Pits was Traziun, I really can't explain what happened to his hair :lol:
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Postby HumanBean17 » Sun Apr 04, 2004 11:01 pm

Maybe it just got messed up.
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Postby HumanBean17 » Sun Apr 04, 2004 11:08 pm

But that faceset looks so familiar... So does the characterset... I don't think it's from the RTP... but I could swear I've seen the original faceset before... but at the same time I feel pretty sure Lun made it himself... It's strange...
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Postby Leo » Sun Apr 04, 2004 11:09 pm

Alos, the fact that rhue could beat him makes it even more weird. You can beat the thing, and it will actually look beaten. Now remeber, Trazuin could have beaten Strata with ease in e5, but he threw the match, and in the Start, Strata owns you. (The only reason you can beat him in the end is because He is badly injured from trazuin and tired from running from Lyraa). So, if you fought Trazuin in the Pits WITH a Shadow sword, then how did he lose?
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Postby Sinova » Sun Apr 04, 2004 11:27 pm

Maybe Rhue beat the shadow man because he had an Illuminati?
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Postby Excell » Sun Apr 04, 2004 11:27 pm

Impossible wrote:Fucking hell, Excell, stop misquoting yourself as me.


Here he goes again....taking other peoples ideas for himself. I WAS THE FIRST FUCKIN PERSON TO SAY THAT DIPSHIT! Jesus you get on my nerves you fuckin pansy.
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Postby Sinova » Sun Apr 04, 2004 11:29 pm

No need for hostility over a quote :(
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Postby Excell » Sun Apr 04, 2004 11:32 pm

Sinova wrote:No need for hostility over a quote :(


Cause he thinks that he comes up with everything on this forum. That was the only idea of mine that I came out with and I was the first person to say it. The prick has to say that just because it's me. Instead of just making an avatar or insulting me he has to go and say that I copied offa him. I would never copy off a conceited self-deluded fool of a prick like him.
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Postby Leo » Sun Apr 04, 2004 11:33 pm

Can't we get to the point? Anyway, if that is Chatsa, why is she there? scatha's not dead. Maybe that isn't really Chasta/Scatha, but the memories of Chasta Rhue got from Slade, maybe that is the idea of Chatsa Slade remeber's, and so she is in Estrana. Also, Slade might be there, Rhue was resent whne he died, I replayed e5 today, and he closed his eyes just as Rhue went to see him, so he may be in Rhue's Estrana.
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Postby HumanBean17 » Sun Apr 04, 2004 11:33 pm

Sinova wrote:Maybe Rhue beat the shadow man because he had an Illuminati?


I still think it's a shadow sword... but maybe Rhue was able to beat him because he's the Pharaphalyn... and the thing that marks the Pharaphalyn is becoming the Phantom Slasher... Just a thought...
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Postby Sinova » Sun Apr 04, 2004 11:37 pm

Maybe to become a Pharaphalyn you have to have screwed up hair.(Midian, Traziun).
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