BETA TOPIC: The Theory Compilation (Spoilers)

[Teenr0cker]

As of 3:00 PM today, I will no longer be a part of this, or anyother gaming/internet community.

[Takarious]

SAAAY WHAAAT?

[Teenr0cker]

emphasis:

http://www.crestfallen.us/phpBB2/viewto ... ght=#33956

[Strayed Wanderer]

At the end of the Vandread anime series, they show an episode title screen and it just says "Never End". I think Lun should replace Fin with that, it feels a bit more powerful than Fin.

Anyway, when Gaius was able to see Kloe's memories, I think that was a bit more than aura sensing and it seemed forced, he had no choice in viewing those memories. In it's basic form, aura sensing should probably just be an ability to see the aura floating around the person and just by sight be able to recognize similar auras. If he got within the range of the aura, then perhaps he'd see the memories like in the Kloe incident.

[Telephalsion]

Here's how I perceived things:

The two shadow men, could they have been kava and kura? if that shadow sword killed kava, and kura was incapacitated, and then jeruh took the wrod, it would have contaiined kava's aura. Then Jeruh, being a child, proceeded to kill the kids, killing serena for "betraying" him, then knocking midian into the river, midian swore revenge, and ended up being killed by slade in rhue's precence, thus being sucked into the blade aswell, taht blonde girl you're picked up by, I'd guess serena, but it makes you wonder if people age inside the sword realm, one thing's certain though, they canät remember the moments surrounding their deaths.

It's so fucked up...

[Sage Of The Wise]

The two shadow men, could they have been kava and kura?

Their bodies would have been there a very long time though, doesn't seem that likely.

[Telephalsion]

I still don't really know who kava and kura were, other than that they were legends

[Impossible]

Kavax was supposed to be Kava, I guess, and he called Rhue Kura. The problem being that we received absolutely no concrete conclusion or explanation to this (not even as a reward for becoming the Pharaphalyn?), so we still have no idea who Rhue is and why he killed Jeruh.

[Strayed Wanderer]

I'm bored.... so here goes something of a quickly pasted together theory. And please remember, I thought of most of this crap before reading the topic, so just forgive anything that is a repeated theory. I've had to deal with reading things I stated literally over two years ago being reposted as original theories for quite a while, so I'm sure you can deal with it.

Rhue's Existence, Origin of the Shadow Sword

"Rhue" is Kura, simple enough.
Kura obtained a Shadow Sword (Phantom Slasher).
Proof
-Kavax (Kava) addressing Rhue as Kura
-The Red-Haired Woman speaks of a man who has possessed a sword for hundreds of years and tells us that a wielder of a Shadow Sword would not age.
She mentioned that the man searched for a way to save himself from being destroyed when the Sword absorbed too many auras and succeeded 'to a degree'.
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Kura succeeded in finding a way to save his original aura from destruction upon the separation form his body and soul.
He learned how to survive as the Phantom Slasher avatar (this would be the shadowy guy) while the body was controlled by the massive amount of auras that the sword absorbed earlier.
The body and sword continued to gather more wanderer's auras and every once in a while a dominant aura would surface to control the body.
Proof
-WOMAN: I don't know.\.\. But I've heard that
Shadow Swords often "prefer" certain victims
to others\..\..\..\.\. Sometimes they like to be
used to kill,\.\. but other times they don't.
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WOMAN: Of course you aren't him\..\..\..
it doesn't matter what your face
looks like.
She is most likely saying that he has Kura's body but she knows the truth of how he saved himself and that it is no longer his aura within it.
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These certain victims are the dominant auras. Jeruh possessed one of these auras and that is why he gained control of Kura's body.
The dominant aura could quite possibly always be the aura that is stashed in the Phantom's Edge's cell, which explains why Jeruh is in there.
The dominant aura is not fully aware of their own condition so they continue without knowledge of their own death.

Kavax (Kava) is present within The City because he died while in Kura's presence, whether or not he was killed by him, I have no idea.

Reminder
Keep in mind that the Woman did mention that the wielder of the Shadow Sword does not age physically, meaning that if child Jeruh had obtained the Phantom Slasher at Landorin, he would've stayed a child. Of course it could be true that the host will age until full maturity then will not decay due to age.

The original confrontation been Kura, Kava and Luma could have taken place on what was originally remembered as Landorin Stretch. This would explain how they returned to this place, the body and sword have been traveling The Way for a couple hundred years (the play says something about a number of generations I believe) so they could have circled around the entire path.

Midian, The Purple-Haired Enigma

Perhaps Midian is another dominant aura within Rhue, at least the one that came before Jeruh.
The easiest scenario here is that Kura (Controlled by Unknown Aura) came upon Midian one day and the sword demanded that the user (avatar or body itself) kill him for his aura.
Midian's aura was absorbed and took control of Kura's body.
Midian/Kura continued his quest for vengeance against Jeruh and came upon him one day.
Jeruh was killed for the shared reasons of him containing a dominant aura and Midian's vengeance.
Proof of Midian's Control of Kura
RHUE: Are you kidding?\.\. I've been waiting
for this moment a lifetime.\.\. This is
the best day of my life.
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MIDIAN: But I knew you were still alive.\|
So I trained with a sword and went out to hunt
you.\| It has been many years since I began
my search.
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The headhunter actually still prove a point here. They don't sense auras, they merely know Kura when he was controlled by Midian, if you were looking for a certain person in such a great amount of space, wouldn't you ask other people if they've heard of/seen them?
HUNTER: What's wrong?\.\. I don't
ever remember you being so hostile.\|
Haven't you found that person you
were searching for?
HUNTER: What was their name
again?\.\. Jeruh wasn't it?
HUNTER: See ya,\.\. Midian.
I think he makes Midian's presence in Kura's body rather obvious and it follows the story fine.
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The first headhunter questions Rhue, Dana and Wes about knowing Jeruh. They all say no and he begins to let them pass. He then turns and attacks. This would most likely be because Rhue may fit a brief description of the original Jeruh and because Wes says Rhue's name and the head hunter could possibly know that Jeruh was using that name.

The Landorin Massacre

-Scenario 1-
Jeruh loved Serena, this is obvious.
Serena disliked Jeruh, Lyrra tells us this.
All of the kids in the fist go off to play one night and leave Jeruh behind, told this as well.
Jeruh is starts looking for the other children because he feels lonely and runs across a dead body with a sword in it and a person who is just staring into space.
Since the Phantom Slasher sword would still be in Kura's possession, this would not be that sword, infact it could easily be a normal sword.
The person staring off into space could simply be in awe of the fact that he actually killed a man.
Jeruh takes the sword because he thinks he can show it off to the other kids to make some friends.
He then comes upon the other children making fun of him, he becomes filled with rage and attacks, none of the children have weapons so they are defenseless against an unskilled weakling of a swordsman like Jeruh.
Midian is thrown into the river and Jeruh runs off scared, probably incapable of telling whether or not what happened was real. He keeps running and eventually wakes up with the delusion that something else happened.
-Scenario 2-
Another possibility is that the sword at Landorin was one of the other swords, most likely Night Reaper. If it was indeed Night Reaper, Jeruh admitted to tossing the sword away when he began using the name Rhue. From here, Foreman Baller could've come across the sword and stored it in Lide.
-Scenario 3-
The shadow figure that was staring off into space was actually Kura's body and the dead man possessed a dominant aura, while this aura was in the process of taking over the body, Kura remained comatose (When Jeruh is killed, Kura/Rhue does seem to become dizzy or at least uneasy). Jeruh took the sword, murdered the children as we were told and ran off with the sword. We know that the sword won't automatically gain control of a body because Rhue has had his sword taken away before, albeit for short times. We do not know how long it was until the sword was abandoned by Jeruh but it was most likely not a very long time. The body and avatar, being drawn to the sword, retrieved it and continued along The Way.

[Telephalsion]

that makes sense, but then why did gaius help rhue hunt jeruh down?

also, the woman seemed to recognize rhue when he confronted her in the sky place, almost as if she recognized him.

[Strayed Wanderer]

Gaius may have just been trying to deal some justice, Jeruh did murder quite a few children. Gaius, being the mysterious prick he was, could have known all about Kura's aura from meeting him before he absorbed Midian. Then I couldn't really answer why Gaius was surprised that Rhue/Kura didn't remember killing Jeruh.


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I moved anything worthwhile up to my original post, I dislike leaving things in scattered messes.
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[Impossible]

Since the Phantom Slasher sword would still be in Kura's possession, this would not be that sword, infact it could easily be a normal sword.
The person staring off into space could simply be in awe of the fact that he actually killed a man.
Jeruh takes the sword because he thinks he can show it off to the other kids to make some friends.
He then comes upon the other children making fun of him, he becomes filled with rage and attacks, none of the children have weapons so they are defenseless against an unskilled weakling of a swordsman like Jeruh.

There is no way this works. Jeruh was filled with a murderous rage because he heard people making fun of him. It had to be from a Shadow Sword.

[Strayed Wanderer]

I'm pretty sure we can come up with at least one incident where friendless children who were picked on went on a murderous rampage...

Anyway, my last post mentioned that their were other possibilities. I've moved that post up into the original post though.

[Impossible]

Does anyone know what the map "The Canyon" is for? There's an interesting event there, but I don't think it's anywhere in the game itself...

[Telephalsion]

I'm pretty sure we can come up with at least one incident where friendless children who were picked on went on a murderous rampage.

Columbine maybe?