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Postby CJ » Fri Jan 13, 2006 4:04 pm

My new years resolution is 1024x768 :lol:

_MurtagH_ wrote:but then some people , i.e. poenaesis, just pick something apart until they find bad things buried in the past and bring them up as if it happens nowadays in every religion out there... sorry mate but that's how it sounds ehehe :P But lets face it religion does often start wars. However this is not always the case as it wasn't religion that forced the Americans to drop two atomic bombs on Japan. And no, the Nazis didn't start WW2 because of religion... in fact the just wanted scapegoats and so they used German people's rascism which was already there. They hated the Jewish race rather than the religion. So that's one BIG war not started by religion i guess.


The Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings were USA's biggest mistake in my opinion. When the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbour they bearly destroyed 2 battleships and barely anyone was killed. And so USA decided to destroy 2 whole cities (Civillians and all) just to get back at them.

Isn't killing civillians a war crime?
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Postby _MurtagH_ » Fri Jan 13, 2006 4:23 pm

Yes it is. And the Americans got away with it because they helped out in WW2. Funny how the world works eh CJ? They help kill a crazy man who slaughtered millions mercilessly then they do the same! Except it's even worse this time because of no warning and the lasting radiation (still around today).
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Postby Burning_Flame » Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:52 pm

Know what you talk about before you say anything. Over 2 000 men and civilians were killed at Pearl Harbor, and the damage was massive. Only a few men.... Dumbass.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Pearl_Harbor

And foe anyone who wants it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki
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Postby CJ » Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:54 pm

Compared to 2 cities and their (almost) whole populations.
DUMBASS.
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Postby Burning_Flame » Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:56 pm

CJ wrote:Compared to 2 cities and their (almost) whole populations.
DUMBASS.


I never said that wasn't a horrible incident, but you cant look at Pearl Harbor the way you did, The Japanese attacked a nation that wasn't even IN the war.
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Postby Poenaensis » Sat Jan 14, 2006 4:59 am

Heh.

Murt, you make an excellent point. But don't bullshit about radiation, even the yanks didn't see that, maybe they would have gone for conventionals.

Everyone was fed up of the war by then, i'm not defending the actions, but they're understandable. For me, my grandfather was just about to go out to Japan and get his boat kamakazied when the bombs ended the war. If you take the argument that preserving your own is worth the lives of others (I'm not nescersarily) then the bombs were fine.

But then so would pearl harbour be. Not everyone in the world has the same ethical system, and that doesn't make them wrong. They were just preserving their own.

Finally, hitler would have never even gained power, if it weren't for France's vindictive streak at versailles, and their disgraceful war guilt clause. More importantly he wouldn't have gained power if america hadn't fucked up its economy leading to the depression. Come on, how dumb can you be to expect material wealth to spring up from the stockmarket, if no one is bothering to actually make something to pay for all the loans. Crap.
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Postby Greatchickenman » Sat Jan 14, 2006 9:49 am

I remember seeing this thing on the news about WWII vets, and this Japanese guy was like, "My Grandfather was a kamikaze pilot during the war." and this American goes, "Seeing as he's still alive, he obviously wasn't a very good one"
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Postby Impossible » Sat Jan 14, 2006 3:15 pm

"He must have some amazing stories."
"No, not really."
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Postby Greatchickenman » Sat Jan 14, 2006 4:34 pm

Impossible wrote:"He must have some amazing stories."
"No, not really."


ooh. That was from a TV show or something. I can't remember which one..
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Postby Impossible » Sat Jan 14, 2006 4:37 pm

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