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6-pack or Chardonnay?

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Postby War » Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:32 pm

That is not really the main reason. The reason is the fact that it can kill you and they can stop it. They can't stop alcohol and they will try to ban smoking soon maybe...
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Postby Iteroth » Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:27 pm

War wrote:That is not really the main reason. The reason is the fact that it can kill you and they can stop it. They can't stop alcohol and they will try to ban smoking soon maybe...


Smoking pot will never, ever kill you. You could smoke pounds and pounds of the stuff and you'd wouldn't die. Sorry, it's just not toxic enough.

And they're now suggesting that there's no link between pot and lung cancer either....
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12943013/

But that's not even the issue. The thing is, we live in a free society, and in a free society you should be able to put whatever you want into your own body. When the government says you can't smoke this or drink that, they're restricting your core rights as a human being.
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Postby War » Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:36 pm

Thats not what I ment when I said it could kill you in that means. I ment was when you are stoned you are more likly to get killed as you can't control all of your actions. The government sees this as being bad so they banned it.

It caused more crime when they banned alcohol so it got unbanned as alcohol was one of the first drinks made by humans. It will be along time, if ever, that humans will give it up.
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Postby EmperorJeramyu » Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:52 pm

War wrote:Thats not what I ment when I said it could kill you in that means. I ment was when you are stoned you are more likly to get killed as you can't control all of your actions. The government sees this as being bad so they banned it.

Uh, you have FAR less control over your body while drunk, as opposed to being high on pot. I've been with my friends, walking down town while they were high. They weren't stumbling into the middle of the road or forgetting about traffic. They were mostly giggling stupidly at benches and plants and stuff.

On the flip side, I've seen my friends drunk too. They proceeded to "miss" lots of doorways and even a toilet altogether. Then there's the whole "drunk driving" thing too, which every one seems to talk about.

War wrote:It caused more crime when they banned alcohol so it got unbanned as alcohol was one of the first drinks made by humans. It will be along time, if ever, that humans will give it up.

...And there isn't tons of crime being generated by pot being banned? Seems like a HUGE double standard on the part of the government.
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Postby War » Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:01 pm

Ukk your not getting it.

It doesn't matter how much you want to put a pretty bow on it. Pot does effect you in ways that can kill you or other people.

Yes, getting drunk is worst. That is known. That is why there is a age limate.

You can put a pretty bow on it all you want, but the facts are there. Both pot, alcohol, and smoking kill lifes/destroy them.
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Postby Strayed Wanderer » Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:01 pm

I think we all know that pot isn't illegal because it's dangerous, it's a completely moot point that I have to hear explained by every fucking emo-pothead-ass-sack in every single class. At this point, I want it to be illegal just to spite the people who feel they need to explain why it isn't dangerous.

And for the sake of the original topic, I don't drink.
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Postby EmperorJeramyu » Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:06 pm

War wrote:Ukk your not getting it.

It doesn't matter how much you want to put a pretty bow on it. Pot does effect you in ways that can kill you or other people.

Yes, getting drunk is worst. That is known. That is why there is a age limate.

You can put a pretty bow on it all you want, but the facts are there. Both pot, alcohol, and smoking kill lifes/destroy them.


I wont contest that, but there's no way I'm going to conceed that pot is worse than alcohol. So why not legalize it? Everybody who wants to use it is already using it, and getting it ANYWHERE (even Houghton) isn't hard. Why not save the police and stoners the trouble and just legalize the damn stuff?

Strayed Wanderer wrote:I think we all know that pot isn't illegal because it's dangerous, it's a completely moot point that I have to hear explained by every fucking emo-pothead-ass-sack in every single class. At this point, I want it to be illegal just to spite the people who feel they need to explain why it isn't dangerous.

And for the sake of the original topic, I don't drink.


Yeah, I know. It's fun to piss off stoners, especially if you try and get them to fight you.
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Postby Strayed Wanderer » Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:55 pm

Unfortunately they piss me off more than I piss them off.
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Postby Teenr0cker » Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:05 am

At least they don't say "Heres a Tip" a hundred times and then say something about fire and cats.
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Postby Fitz Tayo » Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:59 am

The only way you kill yourself by smoking pot is what you smoke it with ect. and if you do something overwhelmingly stupid, like climb over rooftops. Then again, as we covered earlier, it's not very likely you wanna do that.

Alchohol is far more likely to kill you than pot is. I can concede the laziness of nations due to it, but there will always be those against the use of it and I know some guys who are successful and do some government work yet still smoke pot. But point is, yes you are more likely to fall off a rooftop when high, but you're more likely to get distracted by the prospect of sitting around and "monging out" when on pot.
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Postby Greatchickenman » Thu Jun 22, 2006 6:58 am

Iteroth wrote:But that's not even the issue. The thing is, we live in a free society, and in a free society you should be able to put whatever you want into your own body. When the government says you can't smoke this or drink that, they're restricting your core rights as a human being.


YEAH! WHERES MY GODDAMN CHILD PORNOGRAPHY?!


Oh, and please, someone, anyone, explain how cannibus is dangerous.
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Postby ReaperGal » Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:42 am

War wrote:Ukk your not getting it.

It doesn't matter how much you want to put a pretty bow on it. Pot does effect you in ways that can kill you or other people.

Yes, getting drunk is worst. That is known. That is why there is a age limate.

You can put a pretty bow on it all you want, but the facts are there. Both pot, alcohol, and smoking kill lifes/destroy them.


Alchohol is a LOT worse for you. But here's the way I see it: As long as I'm, not tying you to a chair and forcing you to smoke pot and listen to the grateful dead, why does it matter?

All drugs should be legalized. It would actually be in the government's interest, because then they could tax the hell out of it, just like cigarettes.
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Postby War » Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:52 pm

I don't know about all drugs. There are drugs that can really fuck you up worst then alchohol. Like if you take LSD even once, your brain is partly damaged.
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Postby Sarcasm » Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:25 pm

War, LSD is not a drug, it simply has materials that mess with psychochemical (I am not sure if this is the word for it in English) components within your brain.

drugs should be unbanned, but the government should ration the amount one can buy per a month to prevent abuse by the common civilian.

But "pills" (they are not truly drugs, mind you) should be banned. a single "pill" can easily fuck you up for life and drive you insane, and most of them produce "random" effects, And allowing chaos into someone's mind will lead to trouble.

Truly, Compared to "Pills", even alcohol seems harmless, not to speak of drugs.

Though, for the record, I do not drink, smoke, take drugs, or psychochemical effecting materials (when I can avoid them, that is, some medicine contains them)
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Postby Sling » Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:55 pm

Wikipedia wrote:A drug is any chemical substance, other than a food or device, that affects the function of living things. Drugs can be used to treat illness, or they can be used recreationally to alter behavior and perception.


When it comes to lethality, there is a lethal dose of everything. For instance the lethal dose of chocolate is 400 lbs.

When it comes to drink I prefer Vodka and Coke and/or Strongbow as beer and lager taste like piss and wine tastes like vinegar. But the best drink ever has to be lebaneese Arak.
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My friends and 2 of his mates were walking down town near the local bus station. His 2 friends hated each other and basically one threatened to chop the others bollocks off with a broken bottle and promptly walked off.
My mate and his freind walked off down an alleyway but as they reached the other side they were stopped my the police by 4 police cars and a Riot van with cops running left right and centre shouting "GET DOWN!" When asked why they needed 4 cars and a riot van some policewoman answered "Becuase we received reports of broken bottles being used as weapons," Not only was a broken bottle on mentioned and not actually used, 4 cars and a riot van for 3 people?! Realising my mate posed no threat they cleared off but one of the cops poured all their beer down the drain and they were both 18 (18 is the legal drinking age in England).
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